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AUDIO: Wayne LaPierre Tries to Explain NRA Position on Campaign Law and Fails
Breitbart TV ^ | 18 June, 2010 | Lars Larson Show

Posted on 06/22/2010 4:25:22 PM PDT by Errant

Lars Larson grills Wayne LaPierre on the NRA's controversial decision to make a deal with House Democrats and the Obama Administration in exchange for not opposing a new campaign-finance bill.

The DISCLOSE ACT is back on the calendar for tomorrow June 23, 2010

Sources are reporting that the vote is expected to take place tonight or tomorrow.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; disclose; gun; lapierre; nra
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1 posted on 06/22/2010 4:25:27 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant
I will not renew my NRA membership. Support that prick Harry Reid, and now working with HUSSEIN? Forget it Wayne.
2 posted on 06/22/2010 4:30:35 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Errant

Goodbye to Wayne and the NRA —


3 posted on 06/22/2010 4:32:26 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Errant
Wonder what the real deal was--does the admin have some dirt on LaPierre, or what?

Ugh. Sarah Palin should have a talk with LaPierre.

4 posted on 06/22/2010 4:35:06 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; Uncle Chip

The NRA made a deal with the Democrat Party for their support, which perpetually considers the NRA a pariah? In my naïve way, I believe that defense of Second Amendment rights always requires coalitions, and the NRA has just enfeebled those they must look to for support. Also, when has the Democrat Party ever abided by a deal? Obviously, they will apply their unique moral logic to reverse this exemption when the opportunity first arises. In general, I hold the position that if you do not defend everyone’s free speech rights you will lose yours.


5 posted on 06/22/2010 4:38:52 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Uncle Chip

Yep - when my membership expires, I will NOT renew.


6 posted on 06/22/2010 4:40:28 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: Uncle Chip

Yep - when my membership expires, I will NOT renew.


7 posted on 06/22/2010 4:40:30 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: Mamzelle
Wonder what the real deal was...

That's what I'm wondering. His actions don't make sense unless there are other circumstances the members don't know about.

8 posted on 06/22/2010 4:43:03 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Mamzelle

Both Sarah and Glenn Beck spoke at the NRA in May, and as far as I know have been silent on DISCLOSE. Mark Levin ripped the NRA.


9 posted on 06/22/2010 4:46:46 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Pander to me for a change!!)
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To: Errant

Although I am incredibly disappointed in the NRA for this, I don’t think it will help the Second Amendment cause for people to stop supporting the NRA financially. I direct my angre at Wayne and believe he should step down for the good of the organization. The NRA needs to move foward and remain intact...the leadership needs to be taken to task however.


10 posted on 06/22/2010 4:48:30 PM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: Errant

I can’t see getting in bed with the dimoKKKRATS for their support of the 2nd Amendment. That just is not going to happen. Bad judgement by the NRA.


11 posted on 06/22/2010 4:52:17 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Errant
And Wayne was on Gun Talk last Sunday (6-20) defending the NRA to the hilt. Still, I didn't hear him deny that the NRA agreed to sit on the sidelines after the carve-out. Then Tom Gresham, always a strong supporter of the NRA, criticized him after the interview. Interesting that the relevant 2nd hour podcast is not available thru guntalk.com, but can be found on iTunes. (search for Tom Gresham podcast)
12 posted on 06/22/2010 5:00:15 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Errant
NRA Member Communications
11250 Waples Mill Road
Fairfax, VA 22030

Subject: Termination of membership

Reference: My email of 15 June 2010

This letter is to inform you that I want my membership in the NRA TERMINATED forthwith. Member number 1580xxxxx.

Your support for politicians like Harry Reed and John McCain, plus your sellout of FREEDOM and the 1st Amendment in the case of the DISCLOSE Act are the final straws on the camel’s back.

Oh, and lose my address. DO NOT ever send me another solicitation letter or any other type of communication.

With deep DISGUST,

Neil E. Wright

The referenced email:

Message: For years I refused to join the NRA because of your sellout attitude on anti-gun legislation, including the '34 NFA, the '68 GCA, the Brady Bill, etc, etc, etc.

I did finally join after the '08 elections because I thought and hoped that maybe with the election of the rooster-sucking communist, you'd finally get the message that FREEDOM comes first.

Obviously, you didn't.

The support of the NRA for politicians like Harry Reed and John McCain plus your last sellout of FREEDOM and the 1st Amendment, broke the camel's back.

Cancel my membership and lose my address.

With deep disgust,
Neil E. Wright

★ FREEDOM! ★

13 posted on 06/22/2010 5:02:36 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER OathKeeper III We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: Mamzelle

Maybe she did. The NRA endorsed McCain over Hayworth. I wish Lars would have asked Wayne why the NRA did that, especially after the number of times during the interview he decried McCain-Feingold.


14 posted on 06/22/2010 5:02:58 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Recovering_Democrat

That Harry Reid love-fest special feature article titled “ A Real Home on the Range” in the NRA’s June “American Rifleman” magazine was the final straw for me.


15 posted on 06/22/2010 5:12:06 PM PDT by chickenlips
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To: Errant

Somewhere in Heaven Charlton Heston is urinating down on Wayne LaPierre.


16 posted on 06/22/2010 5:17:03 PM PDT by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: Errant

Heard part of his “explanation” on Laura Ingraham.

Was not even close-sounded like a dummycrat fillibustering with talking points. An incoherent babbling rant.

Not impressive.


17 posted on 06/22/2010 5:20:30 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: The Unknown Republican
...the leadership needs to be taken to task however.

Agree, the leadership may even need to be changed/investigated. IMO they could lower the dues by half. Have you seen how much they take in on an annual basis? Over 500 million dollars annually I believe.

I don't want to see the NRA dissolve. There's too much history here. We need to restore the NRA as Glenn Beck would say.

Personally, I'll probably let my membership expire and join GOA for now since I will not be associated with any organization that will not stand up for the rights of All Americans. So many Americans have paid the ultimate price for the freedom we enjoy. The actions of the NRA leadership and this democratic controlled congress is a disgrace to that sacrifice.

18 posted on 06/22/2010 5:21:05 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Yankee
Bless our Saint Heston!

My hats'off to him Yankee. ;)


19 posted on 06/22/2010 5:28:43 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

Jews for the Preservation of Fiream Ownership - Excellent

Second Amendment Foundation - Great

Gun Owners of America - Great


20 posted on 06/22/2010 5:34:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

You should look up the NRA’s mission. It isn’t to elect conservatives, it’s to elect pro-2nd Amendment candidates and protect the 2nd Amendment.

Everything you wished they do is outside the scope of their mission (with the exception of stuff over 40 years ago).


21 posted on 06/22/2010 5:53:35 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Errant

Can LaPierre explain why he’s seen schmoozing with HARRY FRICKIN’ REID on the pages of this month’s NRA Magazine American Rifleman?


22 posted on 06/22/2010 6:07:38 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Dan Nunn
First, just as there is no such animal as a "pro-life" democrat politician, there is no such thing as a "pro-gun" democrat politician. Just as there is no such thing as a "pro-AMERICAN" or "pro-FREEDOM" democrat politician anymore. This is no longer the party of of Scoop Jackson, JFK or Zell Miller.

Voting for a democrat these days means voting for your own slavery!

For almost 100 years, the NRA has been selling out gun-owners, just a nibble at a time.

SCREW the NRA!

★ FREEDOM! ★

23 posted on 06/22/2010 11:00:04 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER OathKeeper III We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: neverdem; Errant

NRA contortion ping


24 posted on 06/22/2010 11:12:16 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: The Unknown Republican

>> I don’t think it will help the Second Amendment cause for people to stop supporting the NRA financially.

I don’t know about that. Holding back might trigger change opposed to unloading money (not that I am) on bad policy.


25 posted on 06/22/2010 11:16:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Errant
I'm shocked, pretty pissed off and feeling betrayed right now.
26 posted on 06/22/2010 11:17:46 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: Errant

AND FOR ALL YOU IGNORANT ANTIGUN NRA HATING IDIOTS:

1. The NRA didn’t become a lobbying group until 1974.

2. While whiners complain about mail, guys like me get out the checkbook.

3. The NRA fought against Parker, not Heller. That’s because Parker was filed before Roberts and Alito. We would have lost. The NRA knows how to count to the number nine.

4. The goa has never done a single thing in it’s entire history. It’s the NRA and the SAF that filed all those lawsuits.

5. The “R” in the NRA stands for rifle. Not Republican. Get rid of Reid AFTER taking control of Congress or you’ll be whining about gun control and pleading for the NRA again. As always.

6. The antigunners hate the NRA just as much as some freepers. That explains the mentality of some freepers.

7. The media doesn’t know the name of any progun group other than the NRA. That should tell you something but you’re too stupid to understand.

8. The goa is the only gun group that asked the Supreme Court to take the narrow view. So far, they haven’t filed a single lawsuit to take responsibility for their actions. It’s the NRA and the SAF that filed all those lawsuits.

9. Lazy, stupid people always have an excuse not to get involved.


27 posted on 06/23/2010 4:15:34 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Shooter 2.5; All

Well said. Further, for everyone who insists that NRA is bad, try listening to that audio. LaPierre says he did not support the DISCLOSE Act and did not cut a deal with anyone over it.

“Well they should oppose it, anyway.”

No problem.

What other changes would you like NRA to make? Are your taxes too high? NRA can begin a campaign to lower the income tax rate. Don’t like healthcare? The NRA can campaign to reform the healthcare bill. How about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? Surely the NRA can cause the House of Representatives to investigate these two institutions for impropriety.

Support gun rights? Oh, they’re too busy doing all that other stuff, and they ran out of money. Perhaps the American Civil Liberties Union will support it instead.

How many of you actually know what a WEDGE ISSUE is?


28 posted on 06/23/2010 6:19:41 AM PDT by sig226 (Mourn this day, the death of a great republic. March 21, 2010)
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To: Neil E. Wright
First, just as there is no such animal as a "pro-life" democrat politician, there is no such thing as a "pro-gun" democrat politician.

If you believe that, how do you explain the refusal of those in power to hear Holder's request for a new assault weapon ban? How do you explain NO more restrictive gun laws this Congress (and even loosening of national park CCW laws)?

You can't credit it to Democrats caring about re-election, because so much of what they have done (health care) points to the fact that they don't care.

Face it - some Democrats are pro-gun. It's not as partisan of an issue as you make it. The vast majority are not, but it's important the NRA makes friends with those who are, for circumstances like this.

Plus, the NRA has a looong memory, and doesn't take to backstabbing well. Why do you think they endorsed Ted Strickland over John Kaisich in Ohio?

29 posted on 06/23/2010 6:42:47 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: All
This is a classic divide and conquer strategy that is as old as time. Not only will it divide and hurt the NRA, it will pit gun owner associations and gun owners against one another.

Passage of this bill depends on the NRA not fighting it. It's obvious that's what the progressives believe or they would not be offering the NRA a deal. It's third grade level stuff as Mr. LaPierre described in the interview above.

What's likely to happen is the exemption will never make it into the final bill Obama signs. Look around, they're doing this with other bills or using executive orders to circumvent what they don't like.

In one fell swoop, the progressive will have the gun owners fighting one another, wounded the associations and limited everyone's ability to fight their final gun grab and implementing their other shopping list of agendas.

It'll happen so fast you'll be left more dizzy and confused than you already are. Mr. Lapierre just screwed the poodle again by getting in bed with these people. You can't trust them. Our only chance in the short time we have remaining is to stand together and support each other in the fight to protect ALL of our freedoms.

Don't let a bunch of overbearing thugs or backroom deals silence you or discourage you from fighting back or at least raising hell.

30 posted on 06/23/2010 10:33:21 AM PDT by Errant
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Breaking: House Dems Preparing Thursday DISCLOSE Act Vote to Muzzle Pro-life, Pro-family Groups

WASHINGTON, D.C., June 17, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Delayed, but not undaunted, the leadership of the Democrat-controlled U.S. Congress may force a Thursday vote on a new campaign finance bill, the Orwellian-named “Democracy is Strengthened by Casting Light on Spending in Elections (DISCLOSE) Act” that has pro-life, pro-family groups, and even the ACLU crying foul. Critics say the measure will have a chilling effect on political free speech, especially with mid-term elections just around the corner. Late Wednesday afternoon, National Right to Life Legislative Director Douglas Johnson told LifeSiteNews.com that the House Rules Committee was meeting at that moment to make...

Errant, Proud member of the NRA - NOT!

31 posted on 06/23/2010 4:19:43 PM PDT by Errant
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To: All
From the article above:

Once passed by the House and Senate and signed into law by President Barack Obama, the act would take effect in 30 days, even if the Federal Elections Commission has not yet crafted new guidelines – just in time for the mid-term elections in November.

Both H.R. 5175, and its Senate companion legislation, both contain a “severability clause” that will keep parts of the bill alive, if the U.S. Supreme Court strikes down any section of the bill.

What are you going to say to the members Mr. Wayne LaPierre when, not if, the exemption for the NRA is struck down?

32 posted on 06/23/2010 5:12:26 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Shooter 2.5; All
AND FOR ALL YOU IGNORANT ANTIGUN NRA HATING IDIOTS:

Oh I forgot its ‘ole 2.5, the GOA hating NRA member…

Here is a thread where you spewed your typical, and not very enlightened, rant without listening to a word someone else says… Typical 2.5 whining rant about the GOA.

and here you are in another thread and using your typical whining rant with me… 2.5 gets the real facts and then gets caught in a couple of, well let’s say factual distortions.

And again even after being confronted by facts defeating your position you continue to defend the indefensible.

So even after getting your butt severely kicked to the curb, you continue to resort to distortions, twisting everyone’s words and in some cases; out right lying about your actions in attempting to defend your weak bias.

Even so, I tried to reach out over a year later and help you see the error of your non-question, but you again went back to your old ways.

Many people have answered your stupid questions and countered your stands innumerous times… you just refuse to see it. Point is if you can’t have an honest debate fighting a common enemy, then do everyone else a favor… stay on the sidelines and argue with yourself, don’t try to distort the focus of this fight.

Every 2A group, no matter what you may think of them should be WELCOMED to the struggle we are facing, many former NRA members, myself included, who definitely have no love for the NRA leadership have been going back into the group because the stakes are so high, don’t let your petty bias cloud the big picture.

AOV sends with warmest regards.

33 posted on 06/23/2010 6:10:05 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: chickenlips

I hear you chick.......last straw for me was when I found out one of the muslim terrorist front groups, CAIR, had an agenda setter, lobbyist, fund raiser and overall heavy hitter named grover norquist who was ALSO a long time NRA board member!!!!!!! and the NRA knew ALL along of his anti-American work for CAIR and did nothing to remove him. the once greatest org. in America imho, the NRA, infiltrated by a muslim terrorist enabler and they, with NO mistake about it, looked the other way. still hard for this old guy to get his head around it but it is well known now about the norquist/CAIR/NRA scandal.


34 posted on 06/23/2010 7:33:02 PM PDT by bobby.223
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