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Let's start with the facts and see where they lead us.
1 posted on 07/10/2010 12:24:49 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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Where is Woodward when you need him!


2 posted on 07/10/2010 12:29:46 PM PDT by FES0844
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3 posted on 07/10/2010 12:34:13 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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Obama could have been born on Mars to Martian parents, and he would still get a pass.


5 posted on 07/10/2010 12:35:29 PM PDT by Nepeta
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Rules do not apply to the fatherless one and he will use the jump the broom defense.


7 posted on 07/10/2010 12:36:46 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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FACTS!!!

the disciples of the messiah cares not for facts. Read that as not only the MSM, but also moderately conservative media and even some so called far right right pundits like Rush who have decided to, at least for the time being, avoid connection with birthers or even the whole gay-obama people.

The reason? they feel that reaction would be so strongly negative against them that it would poison the well on what they're trying to prove.....by condemning the POSOTUS for what he is doing to America.

I do not know if that is the right technique or not...it is what it is.

9 posted on 07/10/2010 12:38:46 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Let’s forget for a moment about the allegations that Barack Hussein Obama Jr. is not a naturalized U.S. citizen

That is not the correct question. The correct question is whether he is a natural born citizen as required by Article I of the Constitution. There is a big difference.

10 posted on 07/10/2010 12:41:16 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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This is why birthers are ridiculous. Who cares whether his parents were legally married? Illegitimate birth has nothing to do with the qualifications to be president, especially in this country.


11 posted on 07/10/2010 12:41:40 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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Interesting Post. For anyone needing references, I've been keeping a list of links for you at The Patriot's Flag - Eligibility and Credibility. Each link has a full summary using a "mouse over". I've mostly kept this for my own reference. But as you look at all the links and what they are saying, birther or not, something is terribly wrong. And the post for this thread just adds more interesting ideas. (And it is now added to the links I'm keeping).
13 posted on 07/10/2010 12:42:07 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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“Immaculate Deception”.

I LIKE your title....makes me think of Rush always using the term “the Immaculation of Barak Obama..”

hmmmmm....might make one think Rush knows more than he’s letting on......


14 posted on 07/10/2010 12:43:20 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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Bluntly, none of the facts you have listed have anything to do with Barack Obama’s being eligible for the Presidency. It doesn't matter if his parents were married or not...and I have long thought the reason he did not produce his birth certificate is because it would reveal his parents were not married. I can't get too excited about the coverup, way back 50 years ago. There was a stigma against out of wedlock births back then, so the birth announcement might have softened that a little. In any case, Obama was far to young to have anything to do with it...it was more likely his mother or his grandparents.
15 posted on 07/10/2010 12:43:27 PM PDT by goldfinch
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Ping


23 posted on 07/10/2010 12:55:16 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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About that long form birth certificate..

All we are saying♩♪♫
is give release a chance♩♪♫

26 posted on 07/10/2010 12:57:48 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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I always wondered how Stanley got a divorce from a man she was never legally married to. Evidently, there are some pages missing from the divorce decree too. I don't think anyone ever found a marriage announcement in the newspapers or the actual marriage license.
31 posted on 07/10/2010 1:01:36 PM PDT by FR_addict
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Whatever the answers here. ..we do know, that BHO, knows. . .that he is not a legitimate citizen and he knows he does not have a legitimate birth certificate to contradict his illegitimacy. BHO knows he has participated in the fraud to pass himself off as 'American born'. . .

And we know; he has gotten away with it. . .an amazing accomplishment, in itself. Or, at least, it should be.

34 posted on 07/10/2010 1:05:24 PM PDT by cricket ( Flies Don't Lie. . .)
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Also no one has figured out how Stanley Ann managed to live and go to school in Washington state and Hawaii at the same time after the birth of Obama.
36 posted on 07/10/2010 1:09:09 PM PDT by FR_addict
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“For anyone needing references, I’ve been keeping a list of links...”

Better put in permanent mode. I had links re ACORN from 08 that are gone now.


41 posted on 07/10/2010 1:14:19 PM PDT by Bhoy
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Just a view and purely conjecture on my part here. If Barack Obama Jr was not born in a hospital, then I believe it would have been incumbent on the parent/s or others, to inform the authorities.

If this was delayed, then I understand a "delayed registration" could be accepted. On taking the child to Indonesia, Stanley Ann could have then made a delayed registration. This would pose a problem with the COLB. It states that the registration took place on August 8th 1961, only four days after the birth.

If the COLB is what it purports to be, then the proper procedures would have been observed. Now if there was some question about his actual birth, then whether or not he was born in Hawaii, could have delayed his nomination to run for the presidency.

It is possible the COLB was sharked up to prevent any awkward tactics by the Hilary Clinton camp. I find it incredible that Dr Fukino testified on February 23rd 2010 before the Hawaii Senate Committee on Judiciary and Government Operations, to this end.

..... seeking access to President Barack Obama's birth certificate in spite of the fact that President Obama has posted a copy of the certificate on his former campaign website.

It seems almost incomprensible that a bland description of what is being sought has been made by Dr Fukino. Obviously the COLB was as stated - "a copy or abstract of the records on file with the Department of Health" etc. Dated 2007.

By now, even the most cursory reading of what has been going on, would know that it is a long form, that is the document being requested. There is, of course a possibility that such does not exist. It is imperative the President clear this matter up to the satisfaction of the American public.

45 posted on 07/10/2010 1:23:10 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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The stupid... It burns...


51 posted on 07/10/2010 1:42:04 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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No matter what happened to 0b0z0’s dysfunctional family, they spawned a POS!

We now have to flush the communist POS O TUS and his regime out of the country!


56 posted on 07/10/2010 1:47:12 PM PDT by melancholy
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•4. Were Barack Obama Sr and Stanley Ann Dunham really married? If not, the placement of the birth announcement of “their son” in the Honolulu Advertiser was fraudulent—unless, of course, the “Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama (Sr)” was referring to Mr. Obama and his first wife, in which case, Barack Obama Jr. is not really Stanley Ann Dunham’s child.

You were doing okay until you got to this point.

If your wife has a child and you aren't the father it doesn't mean she didn't have a child.

If you have another, legitimate wife somewhere else, and have a child with a woman who thinks she's married to you, it's not the other woman's (true legitmate wife's) child.

Sorry if these examples are too personal, but what's involved are different levels of reality -- the legal and the actual or physical.

You can have a child in an illegitimate or fraudulent relationship, and that doesn't mean that the child is actually from your legitimate or legal relationship.

Maybe that's not what you're getting at, but as crazy as the idea that Stanley Ann and Barack Sr. flew off to Kenya to have a baby is, the notion that they tried to pass off Barack's child with Kezia as their own is even loonier.

60 posted on 07/10/2010 1:54:04 PM PDT by x
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