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MENSA Syndrome (Something to think about)
Me and my weird mind | July 22, 2010 | MestaMachine

Posted on 07/22/2010 6:59:54 AM PDT by MestaMachine

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To: MestaMachine
I think the syndrome you describe is an element of the thesis presented by Friedrich Hayek in The Fatal Conceit.
41 posted on 07/22/2010 8:12:22 AM PDT by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: alexander_busek

I consider obama to be in this catagory. He THINKS he is a genius because everyone keeps SAYING he is. He believes it right down to the bottoms of his grungy feet. AND he is a danger to the rntire world.


42 posted on 07/22/2010 8:12:38 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Erasmus

“He labels as the ‘fatal conceit’ the idea that ‘man is able to shape the world around him according to his wishes.’”

Yes, an element. Now imagine millions or even billions of people with this same attitude and you have the paradox inherant in this belief. And that is what we are seeing evolve.


43 posted on 07/22/2010 8:20:40 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Mere Survival
Christ is the answer to the problem of sin.

Have you ever read the new testament? Which particular part of Christ's teaching do you best think applies to the discussion at hand.

44 posted on 07/22/2010 8:45:33 AM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Take a course in Corrective Phrenology.

Known in some environs as Cranial Rolfing.

45 posted on 07/22/2010 8:52:54 AM PDT by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: Do Be
The more you realize that children are today, right now, being taught that nothing they think or do is ever REALLY wrong or bad or sinful, the more this makes me shudder. Our kids are being prevented from thinking independently. They are being "protected" from our morals and values and being told that what WE think, say, or value is wrong. "Me" counts and ONLY ME counts in this world.

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Sin is death; Christ is life.

They are being taught lies are facts and lies become their truths. They think they are creating a society of conformists wherein everyone is "equal" and that they are ALL little geniuses in their own right. But is that what the real result of this will be?

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Christ said: I am the way, the truth and the life, he who believes in me will never die.

I don't think so. If no one ever believes they are wrong, how will anyone know what is right? If everyone is the "same," how will those who think differently finally express their differences when they see them? Worse, how will those differences manifest themselves and how will those who are different be treated?

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2 Corinthian's 6

Paul's Hardships

3We put no stumbling block in anyone's path, so that our ministry will not be discredited. 4Rather, as servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: in great endurance; in troubles, hardships and distresses; 5in beatings, imprisonments and riots; in hard work, sleepless nights and hunger; 6in purity, understanding, patience and kindness; in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love; 7in truthful speech and in the power of God; with weapons of righteousness in the right hand and in the left; 8through glory and dishonor, bad report and good report; genuine, yet regarded as impostors; 9known, yet regarded as unknown; dying, and yet we live on; beaten, and yet not killed; 10sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; poor, yet making many rich; having nothing, and yet possessing everything.

46 posted on 07/22/2010 8:55:10 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: BitWielder1; MestaMachine

One of the liabilites of raw mental power is the likelihood of its effective use in the process of self-deception.

And when a clever, bright, well-spoken, charismatic person with sufficiently poor opinion of self and of humanity has succeeded in fooling himself, he’s well on the way to fooling millions; with the customary dire result for mankind.


47 posted on 07/22/2010 9:01:56 AM PDT by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: Erasmus

Wow. Well said. I think the same but don’t think I’ve articulated it as effectively.


48 posted on 07/22/2010 9:14:41 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: Mere Survival

I am Jewish so perhaps my perception is a tad off, but it seems to me that Jesus wanted the children to be protected at all costs. YOU seem to be saying to “leave them alone and they’ll come home wagging their tails behind them.”
Am I wrong?


49 posted on 07/22/2010 9:15:16 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: MestaMachine

The children protected “at all costs” is wrong; God is always at the forefront, even when it comes to the things you hold dearest such as your own life, wealth, family and the like. Does a soldier stay home, safe with his family when he is called to war? Would he be right to do so? Your second sentence with wagging tails and all that is interesting; I don’t know where you get the idea that Christ calls us to inaction. It is the opposite.


50 posted on 07/22/2010 9:20:57 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: MestaMachine

Here’s one verse from scripture we share:

Prov. 22:6 “Train up a child in The Way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from It.”


51 posted on 07/22/2010 9:23:00 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: catnipman

“In my own experience, really smart people have no need whatsoever to prove to anyone else how smart they are. The world either recognizes that fact or not, and they don’t particularly care one way or the other. If they happen to meet another very smart person, then they may have found a new friend. Everyone else falls into one of two categories: teachable and non-teachable. Teachable people are deserving of their attention; non-teachable ones are not. “

That is the general view that I take when meeting new people. I will add that I try to learn as much as possible from others whom I find to possess wisdom.


52 posted on 07/22/2010 9:23:26 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: stefanbatory

Intelligence is an overrated characteristic — mainly because it has a ready metric that can be applied to it since the IQ and the standardized tests were developed. There is no ready metric for energy level, emotional stability, empathy, and like matters that will have equal or greater impacts on most outcomes in life.


53 posted on 07/22/2010 9:27:28 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: stefanbatory

And your last sentence above, mentioning “wisdom” is the ultimate “unmeasurable.” Does this person apply the important things in their life? Do they understand what is important? Do they have the self-discipline to do what they know is right?


54 posted on 07/22/2010 9:29:12 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: MestaMachine
-- He THINKS he is a genius because everyone keeps SAYING he is. --

In the group of people that I made my first career in, he'd be referred to as having been "pumped full of footballs."

55 posted on 07/22/2010 9:42:39 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Mere Survival

I have also found that others who pursue wisdom (and myself) have sort of a “sixth sense” and can sniff it out in others without too much contact...but, it is difficult to discern via text-based mediums - like internet forums.


56 posted on 07/22/2010 9:46:41 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: MestaMachine; null and void
They suffer from pronoia.

"the suspicion the Universe is a conspiracy on your behalf.

You only think you think differently.

null and void is sure.

57 posted on 07/22/2010 9:57:56 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Live and let live; is not working...)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Parallels my experience.

With less crazy...


58 posted on 07/22/2010 10:26:42 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 544 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: MestaMachine

Too true. Most of them are, in the words of a philosopher whose name I do not recall, people who have read so much about thinking that they think they have thoughts. I have sometimes pondered how one would measure things like common sense, virtue, and compassion, but, in the final analysis, these qualities are known by objective behavior, not subjective thought.


59 posted on 07/22/2010 10:43:21 AM PDT by Hootowl
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