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Social Security Disability Insurance not sustainable
www.dotmed.com ^ | July 27, 2010 | Astrid Fiano

Posted on 07/27/2010 12:13:18 PM PDT by Angelus

Over 9 Million American are now on SSDI or SSI soon it will be 10 Million. I have wrote a few times about these corrupt programs and how they will soon be unsustainable because of how broad the definitions of disability and the broad language used in the Federal Statutes are that virtually anyone can get it. Also they refuse to put restrictions on who can receive benefits from SSI and SSDI such as Convicted Felons. No matter how many crimes on someone’s record whether felony or not they can still receive benefits. The Social Security Administrations website also provides assistance to get benefits even if you are not a legal citizen. It tells you how to become a “Qualified Alien” and get benefits. There have also been moves by Liberals in Congress to expand the SSI Program to all American Overseas territories and not just confine it to the states.

Now according to this article and Mrs. Fiano (the writer) the CBO now admits what I have said in the past that our disability benefits programs are unsustainable.

From http://www.dotmed.com/news/story/13538

CBO: Social Security Disability Insurance not sustainable July 27, 2010 by Astrid Fiano, DOTmed News Writer The Social Security Disability Insurance program will exhaust its trust fund by 2018, according to a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report, largely due to the significant growth of recipients. Between 1970 and 2009, the program increased from 2.7 million to 9.7 million people.

The reasons for the growth in beneficiaries include aging of the population; changes in laws that reversed previous restrictive policies in obtaining benefits; the growth of women in the workplace; and changes in overall health of the population. The last reason is not clearly defined, but may relate to some conditions no longer having the same mortality rate, such as HIV/AIDS. Another factor for the growth seems to be lack of job opportunities due to the current economic crisis.

The program pays cash benefits to adults under age 66 who have worked in the past but are determined to be currently unable to perform "substantial" work. The CBO says that in 2009, the program paid benefits to nearly 8 million disabled beneficiaries and also two million beneficiaries' spouses and children.

The Disability Insurance Trust Fund is financed mostly through a 1.8 percent payroll tax. However, without action to reduce the program's costs, increase from tax revenue, or transference of other federal funds to the program, the CBO says the Social Security Administration will not have the legal authority to pay full DI benefits beyond 2018.

The CBO does suggest a number of changes that could help in addressing the potential exhaustion of the trust fund. These changes include increasing revenues dedicated to the DI program (payroll or other taxes), or reducing outlays by adjusting the program's rules (i.e., creating a stricter definition of disability, or benefit formula). Other approaches suggested are strengthening incentives for people with disabilities to continue to work through early intervention programs; incentives for employers to offer more support to workers with disabilities beyond regulations of the Americans with Disabilities Act (i.e. special accommodations to a disabled worker); the federal government directly paying a portion of a disabled worker's wages; or allowing people with disabilities to receive partial disability benefits for conditions that preclude full-time employment but allow part-time employment.


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KEYWORDS: cbo; disability; economy; ssi; sustainable; welfare
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1 posted on 07/27/2010 12:13:24 PM PDT by Angelus
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To: Angelus

It’s not insurance, it’s a tax. ~~ B. Hussein Obama


2 posted on 07/27/2010 12:15:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: Angelus

SSI - the new welfare for life scam.


3 posted on 07/27/2010 12:17:11 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Angelus

The DOE isn’t sustainable. The Department of education isn’t sustainable. HUD isn’t sustainable. The EPA isn’t sustainable.


4 posted on 07/27/2010 12:19:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Angelus
where my 'crazy check' at?


5 posted on 07/27/2010 12:19:47 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: oh8eleven

There are legions of attorneys who troll the airwaves with commercials looking for clients to pimp for SSDI.


6 posted on 07/27/2010 12:20:10 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Angelus
"I have wrote"

GROAN!!!

Bloggers: Please use grammar checker. You defeat your entire article when the lead paragraph has ear-shattering errors.

7 posted on 07/27/2010 12:20:27 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (How many plagues must Phara0bama bring before he Let's The People Go?)
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To: Angelus

The sooner those sappy Binder and Binder ads disappear from my television, the happier I’ll be.


8 posted on 07/27/2010 12:21:24 PM PDT by Mobties
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To: Angelus
Well darn, I'm going to miss the commercials. /s
9 posted on 07/27/2010 12:24:30 PM PDT by Grumpybutt (Back off! I'm Grumpy (love that car window sticker!) LOL)
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To: Angelus

What government hand-out IS sustainable?


10 posted on 07/27/2010 12:28:23 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Angelus
There are lazy asses in my town who got a doctor to certify that they have an "authority aversion" so they can't work. That qualified them for SSI payments. Fire up the video games...those dumb taxpayers will keep the checks coming.
11 posted on 07/27/2010 12:28:51 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: oh8eleven

Oh yeah I just could not wait to get off my $$ per hour job and go on SSDI, where I could be raking it in. I also had private disability insurance from my old job but the private company forced me to go on SSDI. They (private company) pick up the difference between my SSDI and what I was entitled to under their policy.

And I spent 2 years fighting with SS, and even the doctors who they sent me to said I permanently disabled. So I can tell you getting SSDI is not a walk in the park.

Don’t forget I am one of the taxpayers who paid into the system for many years.


12 posted on 07/27/2010 12:29:45 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: nascarnation
Two years ago I went into my local SS office and was met by a security guard. Security in an SS office?
I looked into the waiting room and saw about 20 minorities, 2 white folks and 2 asians with a baby. ALL were well under 50 years old.
I asked the guard WTH that was all about and he said they were there for SSI.
13 posted on 07/27/2010 12:30:28 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Angelus

well I’ve seen the fake back pains, heroin addicts, pseudo-seizures, fake retarded kids-adults, “nervous”, “bi-polar”, alcoholics.. all on SSI. It’s a bunch of crap and all of them need to be booted off and rolled into Medicaid for health and state welfare for stuffing their chubby little faces with cigarettes, cell phones, beer, ding-dongs and Capt Crunch cereal..


14 posted on 07/27/2010 12:31:27 PM PDT by erman (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.)
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To: nascarnation

“Crazy Checks”: The New Welfare System

Instead of going to work, some parents are having their children declared mentally disabled. Doing so provides the parent with a source of income to replace that which was lost via welfare reform. (This migration from the dole to Social Security has in effect transformed the Social Security system into the new welfare system.)

http://talkdown.blogspot.com/2009/02/crazy-checks-new-welfare-system.html

How social security picks your pocket!:

http://books.google.com/books?id=8JRdFnali0MC&pg=PA81&lpg=PA81&dq=%22crazy+checks%22&source=bl&ots=qh-gZfw72a&sig=3YCA-S_4nyqi1tVRnnHK9zutOXA&hl=en&ei=gjJPTKSkIMiNnQeSyMGJCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=%22crazy%20checks%22&f=false


16 posted on 07/27/2010 12:31:57 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: Uncle Miltie

My Apologies for any mistakes. I wrote it in a hurry.

Perhaps I can use any grammatical errors as evidence for a low IQ and collect under SSI as well as the other 9 Million Americans.


17 posted on 07/27/2010 12:31:59 PM PDT by Angelus
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To: oh8eleven

I know a guy who got it for cocaine addiction back in the Clinton years


18 posted on 07/27/2010 12:32:23 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Angelus

****The program pays cash benefits to adults under age 66 who have worked in the past but are determined to be currently unable to perform “substantial” work. The CBO says that in 2009, the program paid benefits to nearly 8 million disabled beneficiaries and also two million beneficiaries’ spouses and children.****

UNSUSTAINABLE and unconscionable. By taxing producers for this underfunded entitlement, the Federal Government has enslaved every working man and woman.


19 posted on 07/27/2010 12:33:47 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Angelus

I have flat feet. I must be disabled.


20 posted on 07/27/2010 12:35:03 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: AppyPappy
A high school buddy was a drunk and still is. He now claims PTSD from VN and can't hold a job because of alcoholism.
He gets about $40K a year from the VA and SSI. Tax free too.
21 posted on 07/27/2010 12:37:46 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Angelus

I would like to add that SSI pays anywhere from $654 to $679 a month to its beneficiaries adding up to about $8,000 a year. And there are no time limits on how long someone can receive benefits.

Also if you are on SSI you automatically get Food Stamps, Medicaid, and Section 8 Housing.

And Your House and Car are excluded as resources by Social Security.

SSI and SSDI are pure insanity.


22 posted on 07/27/2010 12:37:49 PM PDT by Angelus
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To: Angelus
I still don't get how people fake SSI, my brother in law has Downs Syndrome, has to get a certification yearly that he does, indeed, still have Downs. A case worker comes out to see for themselves that he has Downs, and if he ends up earning a paycheck from one of the local job programs, sometimes all of 34 cents, that must be reported and the benefits adjusted accordingly.

I made the joke once that he had a lemonade stand, and it took four weeks to establish that no, he didn't, and he earned zero income from such sidewalk jobs.

23 posted on 07/27/2010 12:39:58 PM PDT by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: Angelus

Yea, what the hell does being a convicted felon have to do with getting disability payments. If the person worked his whole life and then became diabled why would it make any difference if he was convicted of a felony sometime in his lifetime??Lots of convicted felons live a prosperous life working and providing for their families.


24 posted on 07/27/2010 12:44:39 PM PDT by eastforker (.If you design an idiot proof gadget, society will just build a better idiot!)
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To: Angelus

Social Security is not sustainable...at all, period, end of story.


25 posted on 07/27/2010 12:45:52 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Angelus; Uncle Miltie

My Apologies for any mistakes. I wrote it in a hurry.

**
Then you need to slow down and check your work. It is difficult for the reader to consider you a serious thinker when you make such errors. And this was not the only one.


26 posted on 07/27/2010 12:54:40 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: lastchance

Same here. I’m on it for some issues I’ve been having for the past couple of years and I don’t mind drawing on something I paid into. I also, if I might add, get paid in proportion to the work credits I earned. So it’s not like I am making more than I’m putting in.


27 posted on 07/27/2010 1:05:20 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: sodpoodle

You don’t have to have ever worked to receive SSDI. It is a federal welfare program....nothing more, nothing less.


28 posted on 07/27/2010 1:20:34 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

Sorry I meant SSI

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/245/related/1


29 posted on 07/27/2010 1:25:40 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Angelus

I can no longer do substantial work as an NFL linebacker. I wanna check.


30 posted on 07/27/2010 1:26:16 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (For the first time in half a century, there is no former KKK member in the US Senate.)
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To: sheana
You don’t have to have ever worked to receive SSDI.

I think that you must have earned sufficient work credit in order to receive SSDI.

It is the SSI that one can get just for being able to get it.

Or it may be just the opposite.

In any event, I know a young lady that is going blind, who has been told she would only be eligible for SSI, since, because of her youth, she had not worked long enough to be eligible for SSDI.

I think that you must be eligible for SS (age notwithstanding) retirement benefits , (sufficient work credits), in order to be eligible for SSDI.

Confusing.

31 posted on 07/27/2010 1:35:23 PM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: lastchance

Don’t let your own experience fool you. Just because it was hard for you to get on SSD doesn’t mean it’s hard for others. This fraud-ridden program is set up to put honest, legitimately disabled individuals who have worked all their lives at significant disadvantage to the scam artists and something-for-nothing crowd who know exactly how to game the system using dishonest doctors and lawyers.

Your problem is that you didn’t carefully pre-select your particular disability ahead of time to exactly fit the eligibility criteria. You probably didn’t even get sick or injured on purpose. Then, to compound matters, you probably went to a real doctor with intentions of getting better so you could continue working. The way the game is played, you find the most subjective, politically correct ailments FIRST, then start “manifesting” the exact symptoms on their checklists and find a scam doctor who specializes in confirming it all to SSD.

A well-intentioned and necessary system has been perverted and hijacked. You have my sympathies.


32 posted on 07/27/2010 1:35:44 PM PDT by Eroteme
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To: sheana; Angelus

Glad you cleared that up. Most people do not know the difference.You do not receive ssdi if have not worked.Lots of hard working people who have worked and payed into SS find themselves unable to work as they get into thier 50’s and early 60’s. Thay did not have a choice if they wanted to opt out of paying these taxes. And my question to angelus, why did you think it was important to mention that felons are eligible for payments??? Do you have an elitist streak in you that makes you feel you are better than them???


33 posted on 07/27/2010 1:36:57 PM PDT by eastforker (.If you design an idiot proof gadget, society will just build a better idiot!)
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To: Angelus
Social Security Disability Insurance not sustainable

Gee, no shi . . . . er, kidding!!!

34 posted on 07/27/2010 1:46:13 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: sheana

I quoted from the article which stated “worked in the past”. But we know how there are loopholes for the dependent class.

When these programs were passed - we were all forced to participate and become *vested*. For all of our working lives, we trusted there was oversight on this SS fund. Of course, we have since learned there is no such TRUST FUND. It has been plundered for votes.


35 posted on 07/27/2010 1:48:42 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: kingu

My observations are similar to yours.

Not only is it difficult and it can take years for really disabled folks to get anything, but the benefits ARE watched very closely. I know someone who works occasionally when they are well enough. If they used any medical benefits that particular month and earned income, their SSID is adjusted to pay the medical bills incurred. They were not allowed to work over 18 hours/week and had to get an MD approval for a stool on the job so they could rest, occasionally.

When this person still had children at home, she had a choice each year of food stamps or earned income tax credit. She did not qualify for Section 8 since she liked where she lived and the landlord was not Section 8 approved. If a spouse or a working adult child lives with the disabled person, there is either no or lessened housing assistance. The one time she needed fuel assistance, it took weeks, in the coldest part of the year and in the end, she got 1/2 tank of propane.

The amount of hoops is daunting and the person must be very organized, because paperwork requirements are horrific.


36 posted on 07/27/2010 2:05:13 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Eroteme

Thank you.


37 posted on 07/27/2010 3:12:22 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Re your post 7, yes, it is distressing to see posts by supposedly professional authors who make obvious grammatical errors. One would think that the posters might want to look them over first to detect them and adjust accordingly.


38 posted on 07/27/2010 3:25:51 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: OldSmaj

See my post #29


39 posted on 07/27/2010 3:43:08 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana
See my post #29

I did.

After I had posted.

I'm just a slow poster.

40 posted on 07/27/2010 4:25:42 PM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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