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Bill Gates: Who Needs a College Education When You Have the Web?
Daily Tech ^ | August 9, 2010 | Jason Mick

Posted on 08/09/2010 12:41:02 PM PDT by decimon

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To: Carley

No need for engineers, doctors, biologists, chemists?

Sure, they’ll be needed. It’s the 98% of college graduates that could have been better served by alternatives to college that this is about.


41 posted on 08/09/2010 1:39:19 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: Carley
No need for engineers, doctors, biologists, chemists?

you'd be surprised by how much medicine is on the web. The surgical specialties and the hands on application of knowledge can and is augmented by the internet and computers. Look up Epocrates and Check this out. for emergency medicine.

42 posted on 08/09/2010 1:41:23 PM PDT by erman (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: RobRoy
Heck, relatively soon they’ll be able to control robotic surgical tools from across the country.

already happening here in Texas.

43 posted on 08/09/2010 1:44:04 PM PDT by erman (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: decimon
Gates remains active at Microsoft and involved a vast variety of charitable efforts. These days he's even helping to design a nuclear reactor.

This is the scariest part of the article. Wonder if he'll name the reactor "Bob" or "ME?"

44 posted on 08/09/2010 1:44:10 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: RobRoy
And Bill is absolutely right about self motivated learners.

Agreed!

"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." ~Mark Twain

45 posted on 08/09/2010 1:48:10 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Carley

Did I miss something? Where did it say ALL categories of learning would be effectively available online? Or only available online? However at this time, a great deal of online teaching is being done through about any university you want to check.


46 posted on 08/09/2010 1:48:43 PM PDT by handmade
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To: Carley
No need for engineers, doctors, biologists, chemists?

The man is a tool, a fool, and a moron.

Even with them, how many lecturers (both professors and TAs) do you have in every university across the country. Take the best few, have them develop a unified course of study and create the lectures, "textbooks" (in whatever form they actually take), exercises and laboratory work. About the only thing you lose is some of the back and forth discussion between the lecturer and the students in the classroom, but that generally wouldn't have happened in the big lecture hall classes anyway. You would need some way of proctoring the exams to make sure that the real student took it (no Fat Ted Spanish exams allowed on the web either), and the laboratory classes would be harder to do in a distributed manner. If anything I think the liberal arts classes would be harder to do online because there a thousands of ways of interpeting Shakespeare, but only a limited number of ways to find the derivative of f(x)=x2.

47 posted on 08/09/2010 1:51:36 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: Richard Kimball
>>Gates remains active at Microsoft and involved a vast variety of charitable efforts. These days he's even helping to design a nuclear reactor.

This is the scariest part of the article. Wonder if he'll name the reactor "Bob" or "ME?"

The Blue Screen of Death is only a mere shadow of Microsoft's Cherenkov radiation BSOD.


48 posted on 08/09/2010 1:55:52 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: No Truce With Kings
One mention that I can make in support of a college education is accountability. My own personality requires some discipline to remain dedicated to the subject matter. I learn a lot on line, but I also recognize that I benefit from having a class schedule with obligations to meet, faculty input about the direction of my learning, and the face to face benefits that I receive from other students in the same classes.

Too many majors are 'junk' studies, but well defined goals that result in a degree that is recognized will not disappear in my opinion.

I have several degrees and I also have several Microsoft certs as well as other industry certifications. Each has served its own purpose for me but I wouldn't outright discount the value of a recognized BA or BS.
49 posted on 08/09/2010 2:05:08 PM PDT by r3pu8
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To: Richard Kimball
Gates remains active at Microsoft and involved a vast variety of charitable efforts. These days he's even helping to design a nuclear reactor.

This is the scariest part of the article. Wonder if he'll name the reactor "Bob" or "ME?"

BSOD Reactor #1.

50 posted on 08/09/2010 2:12:13 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Well, a quality education is getting harder to get, but an expensive indoctrination into the ways of communism/socialism is easy to acquire. Pay your fees, get your B’s.

I’d love to see more online competitive training that bypasses the traditional schools and provides useful knowledge for those eager to learn. We’ve got way too many people running around with useless degrees like “women’s studies” and such that can’t understand why they can’t get a job.


51 posted on 08/09/2010 2:14:14 PM PDT by meyer (Our own government has become our enemy,...)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Of course Microsoft considered themselves above the law and allowed engineers to practice in their corporation without registration, then delivered products which were not held to nearly the same quality of product liability which their competition had been held accountable. IMHO, Gates has done far more to damage the engineering profession and Computer Science in general, than nearly any other person associated with the field. Since he has been allowed to get away with it, I’m not surprised he doesn’t think the prerequisites of those skill sets are necessary.


52 posted on 08/09/2010 2:16:47 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: decimon

The Teaching Company has some great courses.


53 posted on 08/09/2010 3:40:14 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Carley

There is obviously plenty of need for all the fields you mention.

However, as someone who has been through an engineering program, I think that students could save a snootful of money by doing their first two years in most BS programs for engineering/science online. Most of the courses in the first two years are the same for all of the eng/science tracks. You willl have 4 semesters of calc, physics and/or chemistry, a couple of science electives and three semesters worth of some language arts or writing classes.

It is only in the junior year where things start to specialize.


54 posted on 08/09/2010 8:18:23 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: MrEdd
Think those things require a group of buildings in a central location?

Next up is online employment. Online educated employees are well suited for it. A growing number of business functions no longer need to occur in a group of buildings in a central location.

Most conservatives work in leftist cess pools but would rather live and raise their families in the mountains, woodlands, and lake areas.

55 posted on 08/10/2010 6:46:38 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: meyer
I’d love to see more online competitive training

A key ingredient in learning is competition. It creates time pressure to focus and keep up. Online schools could make learning a competitive game of peers with great success. An amazing thing to me is teachers today go to great lengths to remove all competition from their classrooms, because it hurts the feelings of their below average students. The goal of education today is equal outcome for all, not equal opportunity. The union/Democrat teachers are out to cripple the above average students to level the playing field, because it's not fair.

56 posted on 08/10/2010 7:02:14 AM PDT by Reeses
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