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Was Obama Born Earlier Than August 4th, 1961 (Was Stanley Ann Pregnant at 17 ?)
Questions | August 15, 2010 | DontTreadOnMe2010

Posted on 08/16/2010 1:54:56 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009

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To: nikos1121

If you want Look alikes , take a peek at Malcolm X alongside Obama’s picture.

Now THEY look alike and it is also a possibility. It seem,s Ann Dunham was not too particul;ar who she opened her legs to as long as he wasn’t white.


61 posted on 08/16/2010 9:39:01 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

What was your opinion of the folks who didn’t believe that GWB won the 2000 election?


62 posted on 08/16/2010 10:26:58 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: El Sordo

Well, going all the way back to the year 2000, that’s a pretty long stretch, and I don’t see the relations were talking about now.

But to answer your question I don’t think the word believe is the correct word to be using concerning the 2000 election, it was a huge giant mess involving counts and recounts and more recounts and more recounts. Did you see them on TV looking at the ballots with a magnifying glass and talking about them? I did. Did you notice that the two Democrats would always say Gore, Gore, and the poor lonely one Republican would say wait a minute wait a minute I don’t see anything at all there?

Just like the Minnesota recount that went on over and over and over, I think the ballots are to be run through the machine once and the results accepted and finalized. If America is going to insist on the hand recounts in all ballots should be on a piece of paper and locked up in a lockbox. In Minnesota, didn’t they repeatedly find forgotten ballots and ballots in the back of a Democrat’s car ? does anyone really believe that Al Franken one? I don’t. But that’s just me.


63 posted on 08/16/2010 10:40:23 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Munz

I think your right ion every count.
I continuously tell the believers of their great zero .. just show me once where he said he was a natural born citizen and I will go away.

Inevitably they always go to the fight the smears page and say .. see it is right there. But guess what .. it isn’t.

He only ever said he was a “native born citizen” a far cry from Natural Born. I am quite sure that the constitutional scholar knows the difference don’t you?

If we could only get the media to state the law, “being born of two American citizens” ... we would not be in this mess. People would NEVER have voted for him.

I blame McCain .. he knew - Obama knew ..

The irony of S 511 was that it was sponsored by: Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

and the resolution said twice:
children born to Americans

(plural)

and they even cited the law:
as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen’;

Sad how McCain never said a word, he is the only one who could have standing in this whole mess to challenge the undocumented worker.


Does it count with you if Obama signed a legal document stating that he was “a natural born citizen of the United States”? I know that he did sign such a statement in order to get on the ballot in Arizona. He may not have said it verbally but he did sign and attest to it.

Here’s a link to a scanned image of his signed statement:
http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/arizona-election-nomination-papers-barack-obama-signed-statement-he-is-a-natural-born-citizen2.pdf


64 posted on 08/16/2010 12:25:33 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

It’s in the book, “Dreams...” — page 123.


65 posted on 08/16/2010 12:44:47 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009; Beckwith; LucyT; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...
Ping.................. An interesting 0b0z0 parentage thread.

Whether 0b0z0 is a NBC or not, he certainly “doesn’t want” OR “can’t” prove it.

Let's see what we know and try some educated guesses.

1- The Armour/0b0z0 picture below shows that Armour is as close to a "White Obama" as we know him today. This means that Armour, who badly wanted a son, could very well be his father. In this case, the mother HAS TO BE black and so far, unknown. She could be a one-night stand in one of Armour’s black buddies' drunken and pot parties. Marshall Davis and his communist ilk come to mind.

http://iwandahnial.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/obama-7.jpg

2- At the time, a mixed race pregnancy out of wedlock was almost a disaster. In Armour's case, he couldn't get married because he was already married. However, he certainly wanted to keep his son close to him and in the family.

3- Stanley Anne is the only solution to keep the kid in the family. Mind you, nobody and no pictures of her pregnancy are found. In addition, reports about Anne not able to diaper "her son" and dumping him on his "grandparents" and live in Seattle and Indonesia for years, etc. will only lend credibility to a very distant mother or that Anne isn't the mother.

4- Assuming that Anne is the mother, she probably was impressed by black revolutionaries, such as Marshall Davis and Malcolm X. There could be others from what became the Black Panthers that morphed into the Barack Panthers nowadays.

Anne probably slept with one or more of them rather than an unimpressive Kenyan, like Barack Obama Sr. Whoever the father was, he didn’t care for the kid, therefore, another “father” had to be found for whatever deal was on the table.

Conclusion:

I believe 0b0z0 could very well be a NBC, even with the strong possibility of being an Indonesian citizen as kid through no fault of his own. However, 0b0z0’s thin skin is putting him in a catch 22 situation.

If he proves his NBC in a matter of minutes, he’ll give away the façade of “Dreams of My Father,” his chosen name which could become Barry Dunham, or Barry Little (Malcolm X’s born name) that will describe him almost to a tee, a real confirmation to calling him Zer0!

I’m inclined to think that Armour was his father and that his mother was one-night-stand black woman from the Islands. That accounts for the lack of obvious Negro features and/or similarities that he should have had if his father was BO Sr.

If the mother was Anne, I believe the father is Malcolm X.

66 posted on 08/16/2010 1:07:54 PM PDT by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: mo

You’re saying that Stanley Ann didn’t have the baby, but another black woman did and her dad was the father. I think that’s far fetched.

The Obama looks come from the grandfather, clearly. Therefore any black male could be the father.

This will all come crashing down soon. Tomorrow the Rasmussen goes to -21 and by the end of the week we’re into -23 and beyond territory.

I would suggest we forego the BC controversy and get him to have the Columbia University, Harvard etc documents released.

I thought that by court order the Columbia University transcripts were released, but haven’t seen anything.


67 posted on 08/16/2010 1:38:54 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Praying today for -23, better yet -24......)
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To: melancholy
I believe 0b0z0 could very well be a NBC, even with the strong possibility of being an Indonesian citizen as kid through no fault of his own.

OK, let's assume you are correct in all your guesses.

IF both of his parent are US citizens, AND he was born in the United States, he is a Natural Born Citizen.

Having Lolo renounce his citizenship for him as a minor does not affect this, as one cannot remove an others citizenship by fiat. Nor can a minor repudiate his own citizenship.

To be an Indonesian subject, he would have had to make a positive affirmation of Indonesian citizenship as and adult, say by something like signing papers declaring himself as an Indonesian, under penalty of perjury, for the purposes of obtaining aid as a foreign student...

68 posted on 08/16/2010 1:48:51 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 569 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: norge
O Jr, can’t deny the Dunham head, for sure.

He denied it on the census!
69 posted on 08/16/2010 1:56:18 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: nikos1121

How come you’re not allowed to post photos?


70 posted on 08/16/2010 2:00:09 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Then BHO II would be a NBC.


71 posted on 08/16/2010 2:11:51 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: mad_as_he$$

Then BHO II would be a NBC.


72 posted on 08/16/2010 2:11:54 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: null and void
To be an Indonesian subject, he would have had to make a positive affirmation of Indonesian citizenship as and adult, say by something like signing papers declaring himself as an Indonesian, under penalty of perjury, for the purposes of obtaining aid as a foreign student...

Right you are! This is why I'm a ghoster. I’m of the opinion that we need to see his education papers. That will tell us a lot about this ghost of a POTUS.

For the sake of rational conversation, I "assumed" that he's a NBC, NOT that I believe so. I simply don't know. However, my post is my thoughts about why he is refusing to do a slam-dunk and show his NBC credentials in one minute.

I don't believe in the ideas floating around by oba-mites that the communists are trying to distract us from fighting his agenda effectively. I believe in us as Americans and that we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Other floating ideas to hold America hostage by "intimating or outright threatening riots" if we DARE kick him out, even legally by impeachment, shouldn't scare anybody. If the Barack Panthers riot and start any violence, it'll be the end of them and a good clean up that's badly needed.

We don't want violence but we're NOT going to be intimidated or held hostage either.

73 posted on 08/16/2010 2:14:18 PM PDT by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

If it was an citizen that he was with. HI apparently had many foreigners that were in the sex trade in those days.


74 posted on 08/16/2010 2:31:59 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

If it was an citizen that he was with. HI apparently had many foreigners that were in the sex trade in those days.


75 posted on 08/16/2010 2:32:06 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

There is some connection between 0bama Sr and SADO’s father. The photo of them apparently at an arrival or perhaps departure.

Why would she pick 0bama Sr? If he is not the father, there is some strange connection there for her to have picked him. Why pick a foreigner? And why the locked up stuff in Kenya? And more things like witnesses seeing a pregnant white girl in Kenya not allowed to board a plane, and the witnesses murdered a couple or so years ago? Etc etc.


76 posted on 08/16/2010 2:47:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Beckwith

Bingo.


77 posted on 08/16/2010 3:26:13 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: vwbug
I think that you need to begin with pictures

. . . . . Who is the little boy on the left? "Supposedly", it's David, Obama Sr.'s son by his 3rd wife Ruth.

78 posted on 08/16/2010 4:05:32 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: mo

Somewhere, I think the Three Stooges page, it was reported the emblem on Ann’s dress was from a private Lebanon school.


79 posted on 08/16/2010 4:12:22 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: jersey117
The evidence died on election eve.

Rumor has it that Madelyn may have died when he made that mad rush to see her a few weeks before. Knowing that would probably be the last time to see her, he didn't take the granddaughters and he only spent about 45 minutes in her apartment before hitting the links. Lots of love and devotion a typical white woman, huh.

80 posted on 08/16/2010 4:17:20 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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