Posted on 08/16/2010 1:54:56 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009
There are so many odd aspects in this story is difficult to know where to start. Since we don't have any paperwork to hold in our hands to go on; by which I mean his true long form birth certificate, then all is speculation.
However, I noticed one thing during the many discussions.
Go to Wiki and take a look at Stanley Ann.
You will see that she was born November 29, 1942.
This means that she was unmarried, single, and just 17 years old when she got pregnant with our President.
If indeed Barack Hussein Obama was born August 4, 1961, then Stanley would have been 17 years old when she was impregnated by a mysterious someone in Hawaii. Counting back for nine months of pregnancy, (as the American Embassy did for my children when I went to get American passports for them, and they produced a pregnancy chart to make sure that I was indeed near my wife when she got pregnant !)-- I didn't even know such things existed -- well then it seems to me that Stanley got pregnant in late October or November 1960 (if not much earlier if the birth date was NOT August 4 1961.)
This, is, if we believe that the child was actually born in August of 1961.
But, since the dates from summer of 1960, to August of 1961 are a complete blank in this woman's life, with no photos of the hospital no photos of the doctor no report from the doctor no report from the nurse no wedding certificate no baby photos no photos of the child and the bassinet at the hospital, no witnesses, no photos of the mother while she's pregnant, no photos of the mother holding a baby in her arms, -- and most of all ... no normal Hawaiian birth certificate ever produced.
Clearly, it is highly possible that the child was born in the spring of 1961 or by the summer of 1961 and only registered in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.
Imagine this: Stanley Ann gets pregnant at the ripe young age of 17 in Seattle or on the beach in Hawaii just as Frank Marshall Davis bragged in his pornographic book. What a scandal!
Think about it, as another poster mentioned -- an unmarried, white, 17-year-old girl, pregnant by a black man, in 1960 -- and if that black men is the very married Frank Marshall Davis who already has one white wife and was busy writing his bisexual, pornographic novel bragging about how he slept with many white girls including a girl named Anne on the Hawaii beaches -- what would any family, and what would any young girl, do in a situation like that?
I guess she would run to Russian class at the University of Hawaii, and find someone who would volunteer to pretend to be the father -- and that is why Barack Hussein Obama does not look at all like his very black African father. This is why the mother and son never lived a single day with the father. This is why there are NO photographs of them together, no letters, no witnesses, and ALL the friends say "Gee, I didn't know that. First I heard of it!!!"
As near as I can tell, the father only met the son one time in 30 years and that was at the Honolulu airport for 20 minutes. This would explain why Barack Hussein Obama has never sent a single dollar to his many half brothers and sisters living in extreme poverty in Kenya. This would explain why his welfare loving aunt hiding out in Boston Massachusetts for the last seven years has never received a check from our dear president. This would explain why Frank Marshall Davis wrote in his book that he loved sleeping with very young under aged white girls that he found on the Hawaiian beaches, a specially the young girl named Ann who he statutorily raped over and over again when she was just 13 years old according to this book, perhaps using the age of 13 is more erotically charged than saying 17 years old.
It is really truly difficult to imagine the African father being the biological father in anyway. It is much more easy to understand the narrative if Stanley and got pregnant in Seattle at age 17 and then quickly moved to Hawaii.
It is much more easily imagined that Stanley and moved to Hawaii and then got pregnant on the Hawaiian beaches in October of 1960 and then have to find someone appropriate to say that man was the father although the man from Kenya was not.
Thinking in this way makes so many of the strange and weird anomalies disappear.
Of course, this is all speculation. Until someone can get rich by picking up his knife or fork or spoon or water glass at a state dinner we will not know any of the answers.
But, one idea does pop into my mind. Why are all his records in Kenya locked up and closed? What does even he have records in Kenya at all? What is locked up? What are they protecting? That too makes no sense -- and, to believe the entire sex on the beach episode in Hawaii with a girl named in a pornographic book is difficult for normal people to believe -- but, that as more and more is revealed it seems like Stanley was not much of a normal person. Remember when she boasted to her friends "I don't need to get married to have children".
Well I guess she certainly put this policy into action.
Could she have gotten pregnant in the summer of 1960 while in Seattle and just finishing high school? Why did the family leave Seattle so precipitously and move to such a strange location, Hawaii? This, too, makes no sense at all.
I don't believe Barack Hussein Obama was born August 4, 1961, I believe it very likely that he was born in March or April or May of 1961 and the birth was registered in Hawaii August 4, 1961 and an automatic birth announcement that was generated was sent over to the two newspapers at the time.
Again, sheer speculation, just a feeling, just a gut feeling -- but there are so many incredible amazing bizarre strange things about this man's life that I believe gut feelings probably have more to do with the real situation than the false trail and false paperwork that he has released. Now that I think about it, I don't think he's released a false trail at all, he or someone else has pretty much covered up all the tracks and refused to release any information at all.
So, there's some of my speculation on the Hawaii episode, and why the family moved there in such a hurry, and for no apparent reason at all, and who the father might truly be, and what Barack is trying to cover up.
What does everybody think?
Ask Beck or O’Reilly, they “know” everything about B.O. While you are at it, ask them what they think a Natural Born Citizen is.
I think he’s Rosemary’s baby.
Popcorn placemarker
I can find the whole Frank Davis theory much more plausable than the idea he was born in Kenya... or Mars.
I should have said “what is he covering up?”
Of course there are many many things he is covering up, this is just one of them, and as I have said many times, we’ll never know because we don’t have any original documentation to hold in our hands — the very piece of paper that he refuses to release.
I think the young lady Stanley Ann was very pregnant and very single at the age of 17.
After that, a cover-up had to take place, and I think the most likely cover-up was to go find a volunteer to be listed as the father. She seems rather proud of the fact that she was linked up to a guy named Obama from Africa, as that is the name Obama she used herself over and over.
Didn’t classes at the University of Hawaii start in September of 1960 and wasn’t she pregnant by late October 1960? especially if the child was born in the spring or summer of 1960 and of course it is impossible that a fellow student that she had just met a few days earlier in Russian class would have been the father.
If Barack Obama Senior was the father, then —
That would mean about 30 to 40 days to get to know a fellow student and get impregnated by him. This just sounds almost unbelievable and I started to say under normal circumstances but then again there is nothing about the family that is normal.
For example His strange and unusual grandfather seems to have had an FBI file.
What could this possibly be? why would he have an FBI file? We still don’t know enough to answer that question. But if he was a communist, and a security leak or a security threat, then it is highly likely that he was tied into the Communist Party USA, and this was the number one place for Soviet Russians to search for people to help them out. It wasn’t recognized much at the time as it is now today with all the decryption work that has been done for the last 40 years, and the KGB telegrams. I believe if you take a look at the very few telegrams that have indeed been decoded, you will see 800 Americans who were helping the Soviet Russians during the period 1940 to 1945.
And of course this is just the KGB, not the GRU, which had its own separate network which was revealed when their code clerk defected from the Russian embassy in Canada in 1945, taking with him 109 original decoded telegrams — but of course no one believed him at the time, amazingly enough the Canadians wanted to give him back to the KGB killers at the time, and they were barely stopped, and his information was ridiculed, he was ridiculed — Gee, just like us Birthers today.
I think it very important that we keep the pressure up and to date the results have been amazingly good. Perhaps this is not why he’s holding up his passport during press conferences, but of course it doesn’t prove where he was born and when he was born.
As you say, interesting speculation.
But why would a 24-25 year old, thrice married Kenyan, sent over to the States as a “select” student by the Mboya government of Kenya, obviously bright and apparently on a “fast track” to upper level Kenyan governmental service, volunteer to say he impregnated a white, underage American girl and was the father of her child? What’s in it for him?
BTW, a picture of Obama, Sr., with his mother when he was 2 or 3, looks a lot like a young BHO II.
At least it can be said he looks like his grandfather Dunham.
More questions.
Why did Stanley and go to a school called the Little red schoolhouse on the Hill during high school. How is it possible that the family accidentally found itself in an area 1000 miles away from Kansas that had for its only high school, Little red school House on the Hill?
Why would the family suddenly move from Seattle to Hawaii?
Did Stanley and get pregnant in Seattle and had to rush off to Hawaii to disguise the fact as best she could?
Speaking from memory, did she only sign up for the one session at the University of Hawaii? Did she only supposedly attend from September 1960 Until January 1961.?
Where was she in what was she doing from January 1961 until August 1961 when she suddenly reappears on everybody’s radar screens?
Why is there not a single piece of anecdotal evidence for what she was doing between January 1961 and August 1961 ?
Why is there not a single photograph or a single witness or a single bit of evidence or single letter or single document or a single neighbor or any proof of any kind for this eight month or nine month period?
Why is there not a single girlfriend anywhere in Obama’s life?
Why are there so many single Pakistani males that are his constant roommates but not a single girl that was ever taken to her prom or a party or even on a date? Why is not a single female ever appeared to talk about him?
Where are his ex-Pakistani roommates now and are they still single? All of them? The one traveled with?
Why was he riding around in a brand-new expensive BMW while he was at Occidental College, but had to sleep in a doorway when he moved to New York to be close to his best friend forever Bill Ayers — maybe so they could step on or stomp on some American flags together?
I think that you need to begin with pictures of all the alleged sperm donors. Once you have that you match up the Ear sizes. It looks to be a predominant family trait. It may also lead you in an entirely different direction. Who knows? Maybe the Martian theory isn’t that far off.
What’s in it for him?
Well, there many things that are in it for him.
Perhaps a cash payment from the Stanley Ann and grandfather family?
American citizenship Would then be available to him anytime he wanted it in the future as long as they stayed married or possibly even after they got divorced? and if he was promised a divorce within two years going in, as actually happened, I can’t see any downside at all for Barack Obama Senior.
I don’t think the information would never get back to Kenya, and if it did I don’t think It would hurt the man in any way, and obviously it would actually increase his prestige in Kenya, just as it idoest today when good old Barock goes there for a few political visits.
Association with America was and is a very strong point in one’s favor.
Well, it will have to be someone with much more deep pockets and much more time available to them than me.
By the way, didn’t someone already offer something like $1 million or $5 million for the original birth certificate and to get the truth?
So, I guess no one has shown up to claim the reward yet, right?
I wonder if someone will try.
Stanley Ann isn’t his mother. But Stanley Armour is his father. IMHO, his mother is a Kenyan Stanley Armour met through his Frank Davis contacts. He always wanted a son.
Perhaps.
The not being able to put on a diaper in August of 1961 was always a very very strange story that Stanley Ann’s best friend related.
I agree that anything O Sr. may have done in the US with any American girl would, by Kenyan standards, be insignificant, and he did, indeed, become a senior Kenyan government official in spite of many children by several women, and a very loose commitment to any of them.
However, the benefits you propose for Sr., while speculative I know, don’t quite seem to strike a reasonable rationale, IMO.
But in playing a game like this, anything goes.
Whoa, mo!!! That’s going really deep.
But, O Jr, can’t deny the Dunham head, for sure.
“Why are all his records in Kenya locked up and closed?”
Must be some reason. Don’t forget - Rahm Emanuel took a “vacation” to Africa right after the election.
Any ideas as to what Rahm did there?
Went windsurfing on Lake Victoria?
Went big game hunting in Ngoro-Ngoro?
...?
...on several occasions he has publically stated his father was with the Third Army and liberated Auschwitz.
Stanley Armour served in the Third Army..which liberated Buchenwald.
This picture IMHO..is a father son picture. Purely circumstantial...but about as reliable conjecture as all the disinformation that’s been put out there.
http://iwandahnial.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/obama-7.jpg
IMHO, Stanley Armour was a relatively low-level Federal Agent of some sort..whether FBI or more likely,clandestine CIA(CIA technically not allowed to operate within US) who was following the communist trail in the US which was how they wound up in Washington State, and how he was associated with Frank Davis.
In 1991, somebody also paid Barack 100000 for his first autobiography. That “book advance” can be a mechanism of reward for “services rendered” ...to someone US/CIA in Pakistan in the ‘80’s. Either way this guy has some mojo behind him somewhere from inside the US Gov’mt.
I have always though Frank Davis was the father.
It’s all food for thought.
I want to see records .. I find it amazing that so many people do not believe his story and it STILL goes unanswered by him at all. As if it never came up at all.
We need to keep the pressure on until this phony comes across with ALL of his records. Birth, passports, Elementary school, college records .. everything.
nothing but full disclosure will satisfy me now.
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