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Why conservatives are abandoning the 'gay' issue
http://www.wnd.com ^ | August 17, 2010 | David Kupelain

Posted on 08/17/2010 1:50:23 PM PDT by Maelstorm

"Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?" – 1 Corinthians 6:19 NKJV

Sex is sacred.

For millennia, this biblical principle was the bedrock moral value of the Western World.

The mysterious portal through which human beings enter this world, sex was to be reserved exclusively for a man and a woman joined permanently by marriage vows, and all other forms and circumstances of sexual expression were forbidden – locked away, as it were, in a sort of Pandora’s Box, heavily guarded by the sentinels of Judeo-Christian Civilization. Confining sex to marriage was universally seen as essential to strong marital unions and secure families, and thus to the very fabric of civilization itself.

However, this strict but divinely inspired and life-protecting moral code – after enabling century after century of dazzling societal evolution in the Western world – has unraveled in our own lifetimes.

The change first emerged into stark public view during the 1960s under the banner of "sexual liberation" and "gay liberation." While the public was distracted by colorful spectacles of youthful rebellion, psychedelic drug use and the rock "invasion," just below the surface a full-bore assault on Western institutions and values – particularly traditional sexual morality – was taking place.

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To: DJ Frisat

“preserving what’s left of the country I grew up in.”
In large part because of the success of the sodomite agenda the same country I grew up in too is nearly unrecognizable. Its as deadly to the moral and social health of a nation,if not more so than big government.


21 posted on 08/17/2010 7:58:21 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: muir_redwoods
[We have more to fear from socialists than from log cabin republicans.]
 
The deconstruction of morality is a precursor to the implementation of socialism today, just as it was to the National Socialism born in 1933.
 
 
Nature Rules - and when society chooses to normalize its abomination, there is a Natural, Due Penalty, for that perversion.

22 posted on 08/17/2010 9:57:29 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: muir_redwoods
[I had no strong feelings about gay marriage]
Desensitized much?
 
Was this instinctive defect rendered at birth or as a result of politically correct association and indoctrination?
 
Do you similarly lack the instinctive revulsion which protects normal humans from eating rotten food because it tastes and smells bad?
[you would be well advised not to insinuate]
LOL. Or what?

23 posted on 08/17/2010 10:11:38 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
If it's okay with you, Ace, I'll stick to defending positions I've taken rather than those you've chosen to impute to me. That there is something about other peoples' free choices for their legal, private behavior that you feel called to regulate, says more about you than you may realize.

Perhaps there is something about homosexuality that resonates so strongly with you that you feel compelled to publicly shout the loudest in condemning it. Not that that makes you a bad person...

The natural revulsion I feel is for those tiny little nazis who see themselves as somhow chosen to regulate life for others. They are very brave behind the keyboard, when their mommy let's them use it.

24 posted on 08/18/2010 2:31:04 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Gee, homosexuality has only been taboo in every long lasting social culture in history, maybe that “resonates” for some strange reason?

The behavior is immoral. Like murder, kidnapping, rape. And yes there have been times and places where each one of those vices were legally practiced by free people. Ever hear of that word, “vice”, kinda rare in your neck of the woods I’d think — a helpful concept though — it means something that’s bad to do and yet can become a habit for some.

The ancient wisdom of making homosexuality taboo has many solid reasons. To be honest you’ve probably read or heard many or most of them,. But, grasshopper, the power of the dark side is very strong. It’s easy to find some perfectly “logical” reason why all of human history and moral code development is wrong and your chosen vice is just the thing for you.

Legalizing homosexuality is incredibly destructive to a society. It is suicide.


25 posted on 08/18/2010 5:18:05 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Maelstorm

“There are many other examples, even among top conservatives. It seems most, if not all, are falling away from this jugular issue for the same reason: They’re afraid”

Give me a break. This makes no sense at all. Ann Coulter is afraid of homosexuals? Why the heck is she voluntarily going to speak at their conference? No one would have persecuted her if she had been conveniently busy with something else that evening. Fear doesn’t guide Ann’s speaking or writing. No, this is something else, entirely.


26 posted on 08/18/2010 9:14:31 AM PDT by Kahonek
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To: Kahonek

I’m not talking about Ann being afraid but I do believe Rush, Beck, and many others are or more so they don’t want to deal with it. I think what I find the most offensive is that so many conservative voices use the word “homophobia” alongside racism and omit anti-antisemitism. Also these conservative voices totally ignore stories on campus intimidation and blacklisting of individuals who will not tow the Homosexual line. CNN, ABC, CBS, and MSNBC run stories like Mathew Sheppard but when it comes to the antithesis cases the conservative media is silent. It is as if there is an unspoken rule that you can’t report on homosexuals unless it is positive or something detached like George Michael getting busted again for picking up dates in public restrooms.


27 posted on 08/18/2010 1:38:36 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: DJ Frisat

I disagree. The battle is one and the same and it doesn’t mean that you have to devote all your energy to it. As for people being attracted to whomever they are well that isn’t the point. The point is dealing with the issue in a way that does not encourage homosexuality or sexual liberalism. People are attracted to many things, rubber coats, shoes, animals, etc. Homosexuality is the one place where what is just propaganda, pseudo science, and lies can be used to get people fired for not agreeing, get students kicked out of graduate programs for disagreeing. Doesn’t that bother you? I’m not asking for any conservative voice to go 24/7 anti-gay but at least show that you are brave enough to occasionally report the news that isn’t favorable to the hateful radicals. Occasionally have on the opposing view of scientists and professionals who do not agree.

Instead we get countless responses like this which tells me that maybe you really want homosexuality to be normed and you really want the view of homosexual radicals to be pushed down everyone’s throat or else. Are you going to be silent when soldiers get reprimanded and kicked out the military for not wanting to submit to the gay activist propaganda? I’m sure you will be silent as will Rush, as will the mainstream media. You’ll leave it up to worldnetdaily and cnsnews not wanting to give it more credibility. Right now much of the conservative media is ignoring what is happening on campuses with students being kicked out of programs for simply not being willing to tow the pro-gay line.


28 posted on 08/18/2010 2:02:14 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: muir_redwoods
[I'll stick to defending positions I've taken]
 
Position?   LOL   All you've "taken" is the  Politically Correct path of least resistance.
 

The homosexual agenda, including the redefinition of traditional marriage, is part of the systematic demoralization of society. 
 According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization"....
---KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov, circa 1984
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2095202/posts
You're a Useful Idiot in the service of that goal.
 
 

29 posted on 08/18/2010 5:48:08 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

you sound like an expert on idiots. You no doubt developed your expertise at family reunions.


30 posted on 08/18/2010 7:23:20 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: muir_redwoods
 
"What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country."
Quack, Waddle:  "muir_redwoods"
 

31 posted on 08/18/2010 7:55:56 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Maelstorm
I've never found a person who believed in same sex marriage or sexual liberalism who would not also justify the most horrid oppressions to support their views. It isn't enough to tolerate but instead you must celebrate and lift up what even basic instinct tells you is wrong/incorrect.

Sounds like leftist speak to me... There are centuries of historical precedence regarding what works and what society values (laws) versus this novel homosexual experiment imposed by the elitists on the yellow brick road...

Go right ahead and celebrate society being forced to value and give privilege to two men exploring each others colons in a 'committed' & 'loving' relationship premised upon a sexual disorder.

I will continue with my "bad thinking" while you choose irrelevance --thank you very much

32 posted on 08/18/2010 8:50:14 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

I am with you as are a super majority of Americans outside of the media, Washington DC, Hollywood, and areas of Urban blight.


33 posted on 08/18/2010 8:53:01 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: DBeers

Note: My referenced response was not specific to any posting here -it was meant in general to ALL supposed conservatives that are ‘afraid’ to oppose the homosexual agenda...


34 posted on 08/18/2010 8:56:04 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Maelstorm

Truth eventually always wins..

;-)


35 posted on 08/18/2010 8:56:52 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

I think it will. This is an issue I wish I didn’t have to worry about and I understand how others don’t like having to deal with it either but that is what the left counts on that is how they have succeeded in pushing their agenda of sexual liberalism so far against the grain. They know if they can get us to shut up or be shamed into silence they win. They don’t want a debate because it hurts them every time.


36 posted on 08/18/2010 9:02:17 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: LomanBill

Seek professional help, child. Your fascination with homosexuality is an issue you can be helped to come to terms with. It’s okay if you like gladiator movies and show tunes.


37 posted on 08/19/2010 2:09:23 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: muir_redwoods
"The result? The result you can see...."
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2095202/posts
LOL.   The result? -  "muir_redwoods" - Demoralized super-duper Ninja bullshyte artist.
 
 
 

38 posted on 08/19/2010 7:03:13 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: muir_redwoods
Seek professional help, child. Your fascination with homosexuality is an issue you can be helped to come to terms with. It’s okay if you like gladiator movies and show tunes.

Nice personal attack -Saul Alinsky would be proud & the homosexual agenda perverts would cheer (you know, that enemy of my enemy thing)...

You apparently have no valid argument that supports your position which is?

39 posted on 08/19/2010 3:53:06 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: antidemoncrat
The problem here is that many mainstream churche$$$$ not only condone same sex marriage but also allow their clergy to be gay.

You have accurately diagnosed the problem. This is why we are swimming upstream when even churches are telling gullible parishoners that homosexuality is a good thing, we're expecting political solutions from a spiritual problem.

First, clean up the churches.

These are the "churches" that are the most likely to promote homosexuality and virtuous. This is the list of the National Council of Churches which is an extremely liberal group.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church •

40 posted on 08/19/2010 4:00:09 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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