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To: taildragger

I agree that Beck has added much to the conservative movement. But we ought not stand back while he lies and insults the entire Church of Jesus Christ.

“devine providence that lead our founding fathers to come up with a document that let us know liberty came from the almighty, not from man.”

Beck believes the document is inspired, on par with the Bible (which would not be saying much, from Beck’s point of view). So maybe he believes it is more inspired than the Bible.


15 posted on 08/25/2010 5:20:50 PM PDT by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The First Freedom is Life.)
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To: grassboots.org
Beck believes the document is inspired, on par with the Bible (which would not be saying much, from Beck’s point of view). So maybe he believes it is more inspired than the Bible.

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This is so out of left field, I don't even know where to start.

No, Beck doesn't think the Constitution is not on par with the bible. It is inspired, most definitely, but not scripture.

Here's a snippet of what an LDS Apostle has said on the matter: This is from Dalin H. Oaks, former Utah Supreme Court Justice, now LDS Apostle.

The Divinely Inspired Constitution

By Elder Dallin H. Oaks
Of the Quorum of the Twelve

“...It was a miracle that the Constitution could be drafted and ratified. But what is there in the text of the Constitution that is divinely inspired?

Reverence for the United States Constitution is so great that sometimes individuals speak as if its every word and phrase had the same standing as scripture. Personally, I have never considered it necessary to defend every line of the Constitution as scriptural. For example, I find nothing scriptural in the compromise on slavery or the minimum age or years of citizenship for congressmen, senators, or the president. President J. Reuben Clark, who referred to the Constitution as “part of my religion,” 6 also said that it was not part of his belief or the doctrine of the Church that the Constitution was a “fully grown document.” “On the contrary,” he said, “We believe it must grow and develop to meet the changing needs of an advancing world.” 7

That was also the attitude of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He faulted the Constitution for not being “broad enough to cover the whole ground.” In an obvious reference to the national government’s lack of power to intervene when the state of Missouri used its militia to expel the Latter-day Saints from their lands, Joseph Smith said,

“Its sentiments are good, but it provides no means of enforcing them. … Under its provision, a man or a people who are able to protect themselves can get along well enough; but those who have the misfortune to be weak or unpopular are left to the merciless rage of popular fury.” 8 This omission of national power to protect citizens against state action to deprive them of constitutional rights was remedied in the Fourteenth Amendment, adopted just after the Civil War.

I see divine inspiration in what President J. Reuben Clark called the “great fundamentals” of the Constitution. In his many talks on the Constitution, he always praised three fundamentals: (a) the separation of powers into three independent branches of government in a federal system; (b) the essential freedoms of speech, press, and religion embodied in the Bill of Rights; and (c) the equality of all men before the law. I concur in these three, but I add two more. On my list there are five great fundamentals....”

http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1992.htm/ensign%20february%201992%20.htm/the%20divinely%20inspired%20constitution.htm

23 posted on 08/25/2010 6:06:53 PM PDT by Ripliancum ("As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free")
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To: grassboots.org
Beck believes the document is inspired, on par with the Bible (which would not be saying much, from Beck’s point of view). So maybe he believes it is more inspired than the Bible.

You have misread him. He is trying to spark a religious revival in America, by trying to demonstrate to the Tea Party folks who care only about economics, that the Founders were divinely inspired. Forget his religion, forget his mistakes (which aren't too frequent). His passion and energy are a miracle for the Conservative movement. Disagree with some aspects? then help him change, don't try and wreck him.

42 posted on 08/25/2010 8:54:49 PM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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