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The Whopper That Got Away
08-26-10 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 08/26/2010 9:48:40 AM PDT by butterdezillion

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To: rxsid

I think it’s hilarious (though maddening at the same time) that the White House’s office of disinformation put up a post about Obama’s eligibility and “archived” it after 3 comments.

Methinks they didn’t want to get an earfull.

People are realizing what’s going on.

This particular claim (destruction of passport records) is critical because it is in an affidavit in a lawsuit that has to be resolved. And the law requires a paper trail for both a change in disposition and the actual destruction documents. We’re still looking, but the places where that paper trail should be have shown up nothing. The claim itself gives no citation. The retention schedule seems to show a continuous retention period of 100 years, with no intervening temporary changes referenced at all.


21 posted on 08/26/2010 2:24:55 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion
They are lying!

butterdezillion, thank you so much for all the hard work that you have done and are doing. You are a true patriot.

22 posted on 08/26/2010 2:39:38 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: butterdezillion

WOW.

Did I ever tell you I think you are absolutely BRILLIANT?

This is a huge whopper.


23 posted on 08/26/2010 3:04:52 PM PDT by Danae (Anal nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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To: Danae

This is mostly Phil’s baby; I’m just the typist (and getting by on that with some help from my friends too. Thanks, NB 54! lol). But thanks so much to everybody for the encouragement. It makes it a little easier as I watch the dishes piling up and wonder if I’m wasting my time. lol.

This definitely is a big whopper. I can get dizzy just riding a swing; I can’t imagine how I’m going to feel after the Passport Office spins this. lol


24 posted on 08/26/2010 3:26:39 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: nothingnew
I've never visited those mountains (mtns), but I seem to write about them all too often. ;^) Have you been to the do cue mountains?
25 posted on 08/26/2010 5:51:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: butterdezillion
" There appears to be a high likelihood that this memo, submitted with an affidavit, is a complete fabrication - an excuse for not showing Stanley Ann Dunham's pre-1967 passport records. "

The Passport office is lying and they know it about Stanley Ann's passport.
26 posted on 08/26/2010 6:12:16 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: rxsid
How can the trolls refute the polls ?
This has never been a " Fringe " movement, and it's just getting bigger all the time.
It's the Obots and trolls who are in the " fringe underground movement "
27 posted on 08/26/2010 6:25:40 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: butterdezillion
Yeah, the paper trail that they thought that they took care of, but, it looks like things are turning up when they didn't expect it.
Keep searching and the pressure on.
28 posted on 08/26/2010 6:36:24 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: butterdezillion

The mystery giving up it’s secrets, the OBOTS and the trolls will be in for a whirl of a surprise and stupor when they find out the truth.


29 posted on 08/26/2010 6:39:34 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: butterdezillion
Remember Butter, Elisha and the King of Syria.
The King's schemes and plans where not hidden or in secret, for GOD revealed the very words of the King to Elisha even in his private bed chambers, there is nothing hidden from the watchful eye of the GOD of Israel.
God will have a way to bring this whole lie and scam on the American people to the light of day.
More evidence, proof, documents, papers, will be coming forth as the days, weeks go by whether Obama likes it or not, for he can't fight against the hand of the GOD of Israel and expect to win.
30 posted on 08/26/2010 6:55:16 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: mojitojoe

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2578301/posts


31 posted on 08/26/2010 7:00:55 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: LucyT

Bump for later read. :0)


32 posted on 08/26/2010 7:39:08 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Lets see if I have this right, there was a 100 year retention period for passport records, they were taking up too much storage space and sometime before 1984 they divided those records into two groups and changed one group to 15 or 20 year retention.

Then they had 40 superclerks go through and sort through millions of records at lightning speed (these are govt employees) and destroy the new class of records between 1984 and 1985 and then they changed the retention period back to 100 years for records that were already destroyed?

Why change it to 100 years and not keep it at 15 or 20? Why microfilm the same type of newer records before destroying them if the records were determined not needed? Why not just microfilm the old records and save space that way instead of destroying them? Would it be cheaper and cost less in the long run to microfilm the old records and store those instead of sorting through them and seperating them?
The State Department charges for searches so apparently its not a losing proposition for them.

Imagine a few hundred Freepers requesting their old passport records..or maybe just records of deceased celebrities or politicians...hmmm, by jove I think I’ve got something there, we know Congressmen & celebrities travel lets take a peek at their records, find out if they have been destroyed! Somebody start a wish list so we don’t duplicate. Instead of paying the $150 just FOIA them...ROFLMAO Lets See FDR, Nixon, JFK....

Wouldn’t geneology groups like the Mormons want to preserve those records and offer to take them off the govt’s hands and store them themselves?

Sounds like Hawaii uh 0 and long form birth certificates well we dont have them anymore but the law says we have to keep them so the truth is we really have them but don’t want anyone to know. Then Hawaii changes requirement for long form for Hawaii Lands without noticing the public as required by law....why all the chicanery?

curioser and curioser..

Is one man worth all this?


33 posted on 08/26/2010 7:55:04 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: American Constitutionalist; butterdezillion
The mystery giving up it’s secrets, the OBOTS and the trolls will be in for a whirl of a surprise and stupor when they find out the truth.

It is reaching a saturation point.

Butterdezillion: Thank you for your perseverance and hard work. It will pay off.

34 posted on 08/26/2010 8:06:33 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Messing with records, and LYING about records.


35 posted on 08/26/2010 9:26:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks again for the incredible work that you have done.

Number one: it seems to me very likely that the 1965 passport application is hidden for the following reason: she first got a passport in 1960 Born in 1961 for travel to somewhere — for example Kenya or Canada.

Passports at that time were valid for three or five years so the time periods could have been 1960 up to 1965, or 1961 to 1964 or up to 1966 depending on the validity — whether it was valid for three years or five years. This is why the data cannot be released for the 1965 application, because it would show what was happening in 1960 and 1961.

Number two: shouldn’t some people now request for copies of their first passports or their parents passports to see what comes back for the period 1950 to 1970. Clearly, one person has already received information from the 1950s, but it would be better to use information from the 1960s.

Just a few would be required.


36 posted on 08/27/2010 2:01:00 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; butterdezillion
And Clinton and Berger showed the way by lifting documents from the National Archives without getting any more than a slap on the wrist for it.

Lt. Harris didn't get away THAT easy!!!

37 posted on 08/27/2010 3:04:56 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: MHGinTN; butterdezillion
Democrats are famous for illicit handling of protected docuemtns ... never trust a democrat or their operatives. The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.

Nazi Pelosi issued two notarized different affidavits of the usurper's eligibility forms, hmmm???

Thank you butter!!!

38 posted on 08/27/2010 3:11:26 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: butterdezillion

Thank you again. Stay away from wasting productive time “dialoging”(???) with “AFTER-BIRTHERS,” they are here to tear you down with usually talking points!!!


39 posted on 08/27/2010 3:16:48 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco

Point well-taken.

There doesn’t seem to be a very loud response back against what we’ve found on this. lol


40 posted on 08/27/2010 6:36:31 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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