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Get This: We're Actually Gaining Jobs At A Faster Rate Than The Last Two Recessions!!
Business Insider ^ | 09/14/2010 | Invictus, THE BIG PICTURE

Posted on 09/13/2010 8:16:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Is it possible that Charles Dickens was trying to reconcile two seemingly conflicting charts of the labor market when he penned that famous line?

We’re all reminded, month after tedious month, that this is the mother of all jobless recoveries. One of the charts I (Invictus) have seen used most widely appears every month over at the most excellent Calculated Risk website (first chart in post at link). I get sick just looking at it. Bill’s chart is, of course, accurate (sickening though it may be). Other such charts and graphs have proliferated, most discuss job losses since the onset of recession in December 2007, or something to that effect. David Rosenberg has frequently mentioned the hideousness of the job market “xx months since recession’s start.” And he, too, is correct. (Aside: Can’t wait to see who still refers to me as BR in the comments.)

Here’s how one media report put it:

"By almost every measure, the economy has been expanding at a healthy pace for six months. But the nation’s employers remain stubbornly reluctant to add jobs in the United States. [...] Another [reason for lack of hiring] is rising productivity, squeezing more work from existing staff and other efficiencies. [...] Despite strong economic growth since last summer, the current recovery started out very slowly and that helps to explain the lack of hiring."

That report, from the NY Times, is dated March 6, 2004, fully three years from the onset of the 2001 recession. And there’s this post’s “the more things change” reference.

If the economy is in recovery — a new cycle – for the the past 13 (or so) months — “technical” or not — should we perhaps be looking at the employment situation relative to the trough now, and not to the last peak?

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1 posted on 09/13/2010 8:16:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
True claim: “This is/was the worst job market since the onset of recession since the Great Depression.”


True claim: “The labor market’s recovery since the trough is better than in the last two recessions.”



2 posted on 09/13/2010 8:19:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
this has not been as job-less a recovery as many would have us believe.

Step away from the bong.

3 posted on 09/13/2010 8:20:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Things will change after the revolution, but not before.)
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To: SeekAndFind
First chart:

Second chart:

Third chart

Seventh chart:


4 posted on 09/13/2010 8:25:11 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 597 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Attempted election scam alert. There will probably be a Federally Funded study every day to back Democrat talking point lies. They have been funding studies for two years to get ready for the election.


5 posted on 09/13/2010 8:25:46 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: SeekAndFind

The comments are a lot more interesting than the article, which ends with:

“If I were going to make a political point, I’d probably be inclined to say that, given the shallow nature of the 2001 recession, the Bush administration’s record in its aftermath was woeful. But let’s not go there.”


6 posted on 09/13/2010 8:26:23 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: SeekAndFind
Let's see, September 13 and we have no idea what the taxes are going to be for the “wealthy” next year? I wouldn't and am not hiring anyone until that is cleared up.
7 posted on 09/13/2010 8:27:44 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah yes, the old selective timeframe ploy. He giggles with glee over the post-trough three-decimal-point improvement from 0.994 to 1.002 being better than a further decline to 0.991, hoping we ignore the ten-fold-greater difference in the initial drop.

And I see he doesn’t mention the absolutely unprecedented numbers of people falling off the back end of the charts after their benefits run out, or the percentage of unemployed people who have been unemployed for more than 26 weeks. Bueller?


8 posted on 09/13/2010 8:32:58 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: SeekAndFind
Complete and total BS. Just another clever manipulation of the statistics by the Obots to manufacture a fake propaganda talking point. HERE is the real data.

ReaganvrsObama

9 posted on 09/13/2010 8:34:36 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: SeekAndFind
If you are Obama, or if your brain has been Obamasized, you believe that:

In a coordinated effort to drive the economy down and embarrass Obama,
scurrilous businessmen, most of whom supported Obama in his campaign
to be president, are ignoring demand for their products, causing them to
lose business and money, by purposely not hiring employees they need.


10 posted on 09/13/2010 8:40:05 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama demands proof we have medical insurance but he can't prove he is a citizen.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hmmmm....

John Hussman: The Recent "Good" Jobs Reports Have Been Among The Worst Ever Recorded

11 posted on 09/13/2010 9:46:55 AM PDT by blam
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To: null and void

bump


12 posted on 09/13/2010 10:17:48 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (“Just as a blameless Jesus took upon himself the sins of the world...", Obama the Evil One)
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To: SeekAndFind

Puhleese, not another BI post. These BI pricks are like the Financial Vanity Fair, only worse. Joe Weisenthal is the bottom feeder for BI.


13 posted on 09/13/2010 11:48:17 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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