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Leftists Unhinged: Piven Advocates Violence When “It’s…A Big Part Of Your Strategy”
David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog ^ | Chris Queen

Posted on 09/17/2010 4:25:45 AM PDT by Michael van der Galien

There was a time when violence was equated with those on the fringes of society: groups like the Ku Klux Klan, the Black Panthers, or the Weather Underground. I’d say that most Americans still feel that way today. Unfortunately, we’ve seen a rise to power on from some of these people who not only had no qualms about using violence, but who have advocated it as a valid tactic.

An interesting video surfaced earlier this week on Glenn Beck’s new news and opinion website The Blaze in which influential Leftist sociologist and author Frances Fox Piven shares her theories on the use of violence. This video shows just how unhinged the mainstream Left has become.

In it, Piven is speaking at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. The date on the clip is November 11, 2004, and there’s no context to the video, but I can only assume she’s speaking to a group of students. The clip begins with someone asking her:

It seems like most of the progressive movements are committed to non-violence, but you seem to be advocating a more strong physical resistance. And I wonder, at what point do we draw the line? What amount of property damage do we accept? What amount of physical violence do we accept? What issues are strong enough to put us in a place where we are willing to take a stand and take a beating for what we believe?

Piven begins her response in measured, carefully chosen words:

I have considerable respect for non-violence, but I don’t treat it as inevitably a necessary rule. The reason I have respect for non-violence, is I think it helps to protect the protesters.

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1 posted on 09/17/2010 4:25:47 AM PDT by Michael van der Galien
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To: Michael van der Galien

If the left or their allies start violence... they will not like the results... and neither will their allies.

LLS


2 posted on 09/17/2010 4:29:17 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Michael van der Galien

The party of hope and change will now resort to violence when they lose thier grip on control.


3 posted on 09/17/2010 4:29:22 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (We are our founding fathers keepers)
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To: Michael van der Galien
Totalitarian states always end up with an enforcement arm to control the population. DHS is the agency they will try to turn against the unwilling public. Combined with the Patriot act. The tendency is already noticeable. The Nazis had the Gestapo and the Soviets the KGB. Communists always need an agency of this type.
4 posted on 09/17/2010 4:32:03 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: Michael van der Galien

If the economy gets worse...then the middle class isn’t gonna join with the under class and minorities to overthrow the capitalists....

they’re going to eat the poor and the press


5 posted on 09/17/2010 4:39:28 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Michael van der Galien
I've always worried that sooner or later, the Left WILL resort to violence to achieve their aims. The possibility of a Walmart, Starbucks, or even a McDonald's being bombed during a busy time of day petrifies me at times.
6 posted on 09/17/2010 4:40:01 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: screaminsunshine

Remember when Skippy was talking about his civilian army, just a powerful and well funded as our traditional military?

Every now and then we get a glimpse into these diseased minds, when they lower their guard for a moment.

Watching the clip with Piven gave me the chills, but these are the people we’ve let into the universities and colleges, bent on America’s destruction through their evil propaganda targeted at our youth. And now this group-think has become the norm rather than the exception.

We got trouble! Right here in River City!


7 posted on 09/17/2010 4:42:48 AM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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I have considerable respect for non-violence, but I don’t treat it as inevitably a necessary rule. The reason I have respect for non-violence, is I think it helps to protect the protesters.

Her use of the phrase “considerable respect for non-violence” suggests to me that she has to hold her nose to grudgingly accept the idea of non-violent demonstration.

“The violence of the white mob was being used strategically in those demonstrations. Do you think they didn’t know that the mob was going to beat them up? Of course they did… They were using violence. Violence was part of those movements and part of why they were successful.”

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“You know, it’s a violent country. It’s a violent government. It’s killing people. And they’re going to call us violent if we break a window. But they will do that. So probably unless you have good reason for breaking the window, probably you shouldn’t do that. Unless it’s, you know, a big part of your strategy.”

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“These are the kind of people that Andy Stern adores. [T]here are people in the White House [who] adore this person. They listen to this person. They think that she is a great thinker.”

Yes, the LEFT is “unhinged” and WILL resort to violence. The LEFT is extremely immature. Like little children they can NOT contain their emotions and MUST have their way. The END justifies the means.


8 posted on 09/17/2010 4:45:04 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ronnie raygun
This how they have always operated, from the Anarchists, to the Bolsheviks, the Nazis, Shining Path, and the Black Panthers. It is a given and, under this administration, they will have some government and judicial back-up.

Frankly, people like Ms. Piven are just the sort of ideologues who have created bloodbaths throughout history. We'll see how well their tactics work in a country where the vast majority is opposed to their agenda and the citizenry either have in hand or can readily access firearms.

9 posted on 09/17/2010 4:46:19 AM PDT by katana (No pity, no mercy, no quarter for traitors)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Its important to study these people and learn to recognize their tactics instinctively.

The 8/28 rally was a perfect example of what happens when we stay a step ahead. The media expected signs they could misrepresent and angry political rhetoric. They got neither and became enraged and “acted stupidly”.


10 posted on 09/17/2010 4:48:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Tigerized

True. We have a Communist Administration. I only hope he can be Impeached next year but I doubt it. Maybe Congress, if we get it back in American hands can hold the line until 2012 but the damage may be so huge we can not recover.


11 posted on 09/17/2010 4:49:02 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: Michael van der Galien

0bama tells his followers to “get in their faces.”


12 posted on 09/17/2010 4:49:39 AM PDT by counterpunch (Life in Prison: The RINO compromise to "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death")
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To: Beowulf9

I heard a guy say the RINOS were just a snack for the T Party. In November they are going to have Dinner.


13 posted on 09/17/2010 4:50:28 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: katana

They made their move too soon.


14 posted on 09/17/2010 4:51:23 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: katana

There are a lot of disconnects between reality and the way media spoon feeds the population about leftist groups.

Leftists are extremely arrogant people, they believe their opposition is “dangerous” and therefore can be fought by any means. Leftists by their very nature are conspiratorial in constant efforts to undermine the system.

Ultimately, someone who considers you a racist and imperialist murderer, and wants to take your property, has to threaten, imprison, or kill you.


15 posted on 09/17/2010 4:51:55 AM PDT by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: screaminsunshine

We can recover but it may take many years. In fact expecting it to take less than a decade would be foolish.

We’ve got to burn them out of our preschools, federal agencies, colleges.....


16 posted on 09/17/2010 4:54:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Michael van der Galien

bump


17 posted on 09/17/2010 4:55:14 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: cripplecreek

You get it. It is like the Marines in IWO. They are bunkered in. It will take a lot of effort to get these imbedded Communists out of their holes. They also may try one last Banzai charge.


18 posted on 09/17/2010 4:57:40 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: Michael van der Galien

“Leftists unhinged...”

A wonderful example of redundancy.

IMHO


19 posted on 09/17/2010 4:59:54 AM PDT by ripley
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To: screaminsunshine

Exactly. Not all spider hole dwellers are the same and they take different tactics to remove. Some take sustained carpet bombing, some are starved out, and some will require a guy with a flame thrower but they can be removed.


20 posted on 09/17/2010 5:03:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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