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Wesley J. Smith: Mothers Refusing Prenatal Testing to Protect Babies with Down
First Things/Secondhand Smoke ^ | 9/19/10 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 09/19/2010 9:54:59 AM PDT by wagglebee

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That problem is clearly true with regard to Down and other genetic conditions that can be diagnosed prenatally. Because women know that they would be expected to abort, they are instead of opting out of beneficial testing. That’s not their fault. It’s that of the medical professional–and of a culture that too often rejects human exceptionalism.

Exactly!

1 posted on 09/19/2010 9:55:04 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 09/19/2010 9:55:57 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 09/19/2010 9:57:38 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Imho, the medical professional has an unacceptable number of members who do not value life.


4 posted on 09/19/2010 10:15:40 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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5 posted on 09/19/2010 10:17:02 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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Imho, the medical professional has an unacceptable number of members who do not value life.

That is hard for many to accept I know. We got an "up close & personal" confirmation of the truth of that assertion in the ER, when a snot nosed intern was trying to push a DNR for our elderly father (i/l)

I quote, "Well. He doesn't have much of a life."

Needless to say, he did not get his precious DNR. However, the head of that hospital did get a full report and a proper dressing down. I forget the detail of what we said to the youngster playing God, at the time.

But, how many families just go with "doctor knows best."?

6 posted on 09/19/2010 10:28:43 AM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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I would guess many more than we might even imagine. How intimidating are hospitals and doctors, particularly in the ER?


7 posted on 09/19/2010 10:32:30 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Every mother knows in her heart that she is not guaranteed a “perfect specimen.” Believe me: We torture ourselves throughout our pregnancies, imagining every possible horrific outcome. Even without the “benefit” of these invasive and risky tests, we are prepared. A healthy baby is a relief, a gift, a blessing from God. Refusing tests is nothing new. My doctor insisted on testing for Downs 25 years ago, with my first baby. I refused - because the result would not cause me to make the so-called choice I obviously was being offered. I also refused because amnio could damage a healthy unborn BABY. The doctor warned of other looming tragedies. A cyst that would require surgery immeidately upon delivery - without anasthetic, because “babies don’t feel pain.” I refused that one, too. The alleged cyst was not life threatening. Of course, the cyst was a phantom - probably a speck on the sonogram screen. And oh, yes, the boy I was told to expect is named Erin Marie, and she is now a mother herself. She didn’t have amnio, either. My grandson is the picture of health.


8 posted on 09/19/2010 10:33:14 AM PDT by SusanKatzKeating (Admit nothing; deny everything; make counteraccusations)
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Having spent a lot of time recently in hospitals and having procedures done, I have noticed more things that disturb me. For instance, I was given a med before a recent minor surgical procedure that I was told would *relax* me before I was given anesthesia. Later, when I realized I didn’t even recall going into the OR I looked the drug up, and discovered that what it did was give me amnesia! So, I was awake but was unable to process memories for that time period. How is this beneficial to ME? I can see how it’s beneficial to the medical profession, but not the patient. I will certainly ask not to be given that drug again (and feel that I was not given it with informed consent at the time). You really need to have someone you trust advocating for you at all times now days because I don’t think you can always trust your doctors and others.


9 posted on 09/19/2010 10:38:52 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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Good for these mothers!!! And may God bless them.

My wife was 40 when our last child was born, and the doctor wanted to perfor amniocentesis. We declined because there is a slight risk to the fetus involved, and we were going to welcome it whatever the resutls.

But why the pressure to terminate a less than perfect child? only a belief that Satan actually exists explains it satisfactorily to me.


10 posted on 09/19/2010 10:43:02 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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“Testing” is FAR from accurate!

I worked with a couple who’s baby tested positive for Downs Syndrome.
The Father wanted to abort, the Mother refused.

The Baby was PERFECT!

Imagine what must go through that Father’s mind, every time he sees that beautiful young lady. (She’s an adult now)
Imagine the strain on that marriage.....!


11 posted on 09/19/2010 10:45:09 AM PDT by G Larry (I'd rather see the voters write off Obama!)
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I suggested that perhaps he should bring in families of people with Down to help explain to the woman or couple what life is really like for families with such children. He looked at me as if I were from Mars.

That's called referring the case to a specialist.

12 posted on 09/19/2010 10:57:09 AM PDT by Qout
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I turned down the AFP test for my pregnancies and told them that there was no point because abortion wasn’t an option.

The nurse practioner who was evaluating me, looked me in the eye and said, “I wish more people felt that way”.

And that was the last I heard of it.


13 posted on 09/19/2010 11:02:10 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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“The Father wanted to abort, the Mother refused.”

The “father” should be harassed and tormented every day of his worthless existence. If he wasn’t necessary as a breadwinner then he should have been executed.


15 posted on 09/19/2010 11:11:29 AM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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It is amazing how many disgustingly evil monsters infect this world and how easily they can conceive an innocent beautiful little creature.

There is absolutely no justice in this world. Nothing is right.


16 posted on 09/19/2010 11:14:26 AM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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17 posted on 09/19/2010 11:17:08 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Are you for real.Kill the Father.


18 posted on 09/19/2010 11:17:52 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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I turned it down.Had her at 41 years of age.


19 posted on 09/19/2010 11:19:18 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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