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To: allmendream

“Wrong, I was quoting the SCOTUS, previously misquoted by edge### to not include the relevant passage. I left nothing out, shame on you!”

The quote I refered to was......

“These were natives, or natural-born citizens,as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

......and you implied that mere birth within the uS jurisdiction was enough to convey NBC status....

The full quote from Minor in KWA is......

” ‘At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country, of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts”

The meaning of which is quite different than what you implied when you posted.....

You left out quite a lot there. The court defines NBC, born in country to 2 citizen parents, and then goes on to ask rhetoricaly about the citizenship of people that do not meet that definition of 2 parents...notice that they ask in effect.....are they citizens?.....The court ruled, because of the 14 Amendment that there were citizens other than Natural Born Citizens, and that these citizens enjoyed full citizenship and had the same rights as the NBCs.

Again the Presidency is not a right of citizenship......there are eligibility requirements, of which NBC is one, to hold that elected Office......mere citizenship ala WKA does not meet that eligibility requirement for President......

Except in a few passages as above, the USSC has never, not once in it’s history, ruled on the Constitutional eligibility requirements, includung NBC, for the Office of the President.

Not once, because all before Obama have met the definition of born in country to two citizen parents, and there was no reason to challenge their eligibility. (yeah, I know about Chester Arthur...another lost opportunity.....sigh)

I’ll wager that if you really think that mere birth within US borders is the Founders intended requirement that we should test it before the USSC, and see whose position prevails! Come on! Push with me for a USSC review of Obama’s eligibility....lets join hands and settle this once and for all!

Wanna Bet on the outcome? Put your money where your mouth is?

No, of course you won’t...... it’s a losers bet.....as in I win.... you lose! LOLOLOLOL


143 posted on 09/21/2010 8:25:26 PM PDT by Forty-Niner ( Give Babs Boxer a pink slip just so we can call her ma'am again I believe she's earned it.")
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To: Forty-Niner
I will bet you $100 donation to FREE Republic in the others name (with whatever honor and privileges that bestows) that there will be no ruling saying 0bama is not a natural born citizen by any US court for the rest of 0bamas term, or (GOD FORFEND!) he wins reelection, for the remainder.

When there is a court decision (you win I lose, queue maniacal laughter), I will pay up.

When 0bma is out of office via the ballot box, will you pay up?

Do you take the bet?

149 posted on 09/21/2010 8:56:12 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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