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To: TheBigIf

2 sides to every story you know:

Lincoln routinely advocated colonization of blacks out of the country, even asking a delegation of blacks invited to the White House to lead their race OUT of the US. Lincoln was seeking a WHITE mecca for Yankees, and made no bones about it. His Emancipation Proclamation was simply a war measure, designed to cause riots in the South, to cause blacks to rebel and strike down their “evil” Southern masters.

It never happened, even with farms and plantations devoid of military age white men, the blacks remained faithful and protected the majority from Yankees. Check out Booker T. Washington’s position when you have a chance.

“In Saving the Union, I have destroyed the Republic, before me have I the Confederacy which I loathe, but behind me have I the bankers which I fear”. Even in his own words, Lincoln the tyrant admitted he destroyed the voluntary Union of our Forefathers, and instituted an EMPIRE.

What “Union” did he preserve? Certainly not the one our Founders gave to us. We were a voluntary union of co-equal States who created the Federal government to serve them collectively. When one group of states forces another group of States to remain in the compact, they are then no longer co-equal or voluntary members, our Constitution is violated and we are nothing more than an empire. Now, we have a Yankee Empire ruling from Washington.

Some of you seem to think that being anti-Lincoln = being pro-slavery. The opinions are exclusive. Lincoln destroyed State’s Rights and killed anyone who disagreed with him.


228 posted on 09/27/2010 11:34:36 PM PDT by mojitojoe ("Ridicule is man's most potent weap Pon" Saul Alinsky... I will take Odungo's mentors advice)
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To: mojitojoe
His Emancipation Proclamation was simply a war measure, designed to cause riots in the South, to cause blacks to rebel and strike down their “evil” Southern masters.

Well, no, it was actually a measure intended to make it more difficult for the British Government to declare war on the Union after the Trent affair, and to forestall international recognition of the Confederate Government.

Pursuit of the same recognition, by the way, that led to two Lee campaigns into the North, to seek a Confederate "Saratoga"-analogous victory that would bring recognition.

235 posted on 09/28/2010 1:19:28 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: mojitojoe
Lincoln was seeking a WHITE mecca for Yankees, and made no bones about it.

Complete crap, but Lincoln did support voluntary colonization. So what? Monroe supported it. Robert Lee supported it, going do far as to pay passage for some of his former slaves to Liberia. Thomas Jefferson didn't support it; he was a mandatory deportation kind of guy. But I suppose all of them were motivated by a WHITE mecca as well?

So what exactly was wrong with colonization given the times and the beliefs prevalent? What was the alternative? Slavery for life for themselves and their descendants? That was the future preferred by Lee and Davis and Jackson and others but it's kind of hard on the slave. Life as free men and women in the U.S.? Where the Supreme Court ruled that you were not and could never be citizens? And that you had no legal rights a white man was bound to respect? Where you faced virulent racism in the North and even worse racism in the South? Is that the kind of life someone like you would prefer? Or would you want an opportunity to carve out a life for yourself, free from racial oppression and legal restrictions, and able to run your own show as you wished? Be honest now, MJ, if you are even able to. Which life would you prefer? Oppression? Or independence?

His Emancipation Proclamation was simply a war measure, designed to cause riots in the South, to cause blacks to rebel and strike down their “evil” Southern masters.

I read posts like that and I swear to God you must be dumber than a box of rocks. There is no other explanation possible.

“In Saving the Union, I have destroyed the Republic, before me have I the Confederacy which I loathe, but behind me have I the bankers which I fear”. Even in his own words, Lincoln the tyrant admitted he destroyed the voluntary Union of our Forefathers, and instituted an EMPIRE.

Except that Lincoln never said that. It is a figment of Southron imagination which you poached off some Lost Cause website. It's clear that most of your Southern Culture is a myth, supported by lies and fantasy.

Some of you seem to think that being anti-Lincoln = being pro-slavery. The opinions are exclusive. Lincoln destroyed State’s Rights and killed anyone who disagreed with him.

I notice you didn't deny the pro-slavery part, did you?

259 posted on 09/28/2010 5:45:02 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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