[Idabilly]

And still the failed vote in the Senate still does not supercede the Constitution and the rights of United States citizens as you claim.

You've been reduced to this? That vote proves one thing, it was understood that Secession was legal - and - a Right. If not... then why vote?

[TheBigIf]

It proves nothing of the sort. I guess you think that every vote in the Senate proves something? I would hope that you are not that gullible.