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To: Ditto
Where is their Declaration of Independence spelling out their grievances?

Here ya go...

South Carolina Declaration of Secession

75 posted on 09/27/2010 2:41:28 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun; Ditto
The funny thing is that while the Declaration of Secession is long at establishing SC's argument for why it may secede, there's only this stating their grievance:
For twenty-five years this agitation has been steadily increasing, until it has now secured to its aid the power of the common Government. Observing the forms of the Constitution, a sectional party has found within that Article establishing the Executive Department, the means of subverting the Constitution itself. A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction.

This sectional combination for the submersion of the Constitution, has been aided in some of the States by elevating to citizenship, persons who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its beliefs and safety.

On the 4th day of March next, this party will take possession of the Government. It has announced that the South shall be excluded from the common territory, that the judicial tribunals shall be made sectional, and that a war must be waged against slavery until it shall cease throughout the United States.

Of course, as anyone knows, Lincoln expressly denied any intent to abolish slavery, and, not having yet taken office, could not have taken any action signaling such an intent. South Carolina's grievance, then, is no actual grievance, but rather the fear that the North would eventually give them a grievance, despite their express statements to the opposite.

How does one reconcile Lincoln's assertion that he won't impose the North's anti-slavery sentiment on the South with the warning SC cites? I guess CW would say SC presumes Lincoln's lying. (If so, why not wait until his actions betray the truth?) But the other reconciliation is that Lincoln hopes to undermine the South's democratic support for slavery, by exposing it for the evil it is. If this latter explanation is so, that explains why SC was in such a hurry to secede: rend the fabric of civil discourse before slavery is undermined. This, of course, would mean that the confederate cause was undemocratic.

111 posted on 09/27/2010 3:26:21 PM PDT by dangus
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To: A.Hun

So assuming you have read the South Carolina declaration of causes, would you have gone to war in support of them?


276 posted on 09/28/2010 7:09:16 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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