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Android is number one OS among US phone buyers over the last six months
Engadget ^ | Oct 5th 2010 | Vlad Savov

Posted on 10/05/2010 11:09:02 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier

BlackBerry OS? Dead! iOS? Dead! Symbian? Never stood a chance. Android's exponential growth has today been illustrated by Nielsen's statisticians who present us with the above chart of recent US smartphone purchases. It shows that over the six months leading up to August 2010, 32 percent of American new phone buyers had grabbed themselves a device with Google's OS on board, which is comfortably ahead of RIM at 26 percent and Apple at 25 percent. These results corroborate NPD's figures on the matter -- which peg Android at 33 percent of new US purchases -- and reiterate the idea that Android is headed to a place whose name starts with D and ends with omination.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: android; dominance; ios; rim
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Android's continued climb has confirmed it - Android phones are the most popular selling phones out there. And that includes the much-lauded release of iOS 4.

Android is going to be the dominant force of the future in cell phones. It will be interesting to see how Windows Phone 7 fares, and how Android and Symbian/Meego (Nokia) battle it out worldwide (Nokia completely dominates cell phones outside the US, selling 260,000+ smartphones EACH DAY, not to mention 700,000-800,000 feature phones daily, too).

1 posted on 10/05/2010 11:09:07 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

I love my Droid!


2 posted on 10/05/2010 11:10:16 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: driftdiver; discostu; TomServo

Android is unquestionably the dominant OS in the US, and gaining quickly worldwide. Open platforms and multiple hardware vendors once again trounce the locked-in/single-source approach.


3 posted on 10/05/2010 11:10:50 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Puppage

What model would you consider the best droid?


4 posted on 10/05/2010 11:11:43 AM PDT by deadrock (Liberty is a bitch that needs to be bedded on a mattress of cadavers.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Apple can fix that overnight by ending the exclusive relationship with AT&T.


5 posted on 10/05/2010 11:17:48 AM PDT by newheart (History is an outbreak of madness--Ellul)
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To: DEADROCK
I have the Droid 2. Not really too familiar with the others, though. I got the 2 because the others were on backorder.

I think that, if Verizon offered the iPhone, that would have been my first choice. However, after having this one, I'd never go iPhone.

6 posted on 10/05/2010 11:19:37 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

All of my siblings have one. My wife is getting one.

I’m waiting for a wi-fi Galaxy S Tablet, but I’m going WP7 for my phone.

btw, stand byy for a parade of excuses form the you-know-who fans.

“BOGOs!”

“Not one sells more than the iPhone!”

“Apple makes more money when I buy one!”

“People dont know yet how bad they are!”

“No one is getting one because of Android!”

“iPhone is only on AT&T..WAH!”

blah blah blah!


7 posted on 10/05/2010 11:28:42 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

I’ll go out on the limb with a few predicitons:

(1) Android will dominate the smart phone market with Apple a strong second (like we see in personal computers).

(2) The iPad will be overtaken by a Android pads in poplularity in a year.

(3) TV centric internet devices (like Roku and upcomming Boxee device) will grow quickly over the next 5 years. These are currently Linux based, but open Anroid devices will come to dominate this area giving Google one more area it dominates.


8 posted on 10/05/2010 11:30:09 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The next step for the Tea Party--The Conservative Hand--is available at Amazon.com)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

There is extremely strong competition. Apple is selling as many iPhones as can be produced. The whole market is growing, but Android is capturing most of that growth, mainly due to having low- and high-end phones, and being available on every carrier from most manufacturers. The premium iPhone will never get the same volume as the collection of Android phones costing $0-$49 (and with the free phone deals as I got). RIM is going to have problems and follow Microsoft if they can’t pull something off soon. Inertia will only carry RIM so far.

Symbian is dead. Like RIM, current sales are an inertia thing.

With this crowded market, and with NOTHING special to bring to the game relative to the other players (in fact, it’s behind), Microsoft is going to have to rely on corporate muscle and patent threats to push Windows Phone 7. That’s why the timing of the patent lawsuit against the only major Android vendor that isn’t a WP7 release partner (Motorola) just before the WP7 release — everybody get in line or else.

What I wonder from you specifically, is with the advent of WP7 will the lack of removable SD cards or multitasking suddenly not be a problem in your opinion?


9 posted on 10/05/2010 11:30:24 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
It will be interesting to see how Windows Phone 7 fares,

Probably going to be a strong competitor to Palm's WebOS. ;-)

10 posted on 10/05/2010 11:30:27 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: DEADROCK

Recently got the T-Mobile Vibrant made by samsung. Don’t know if it’s the BEST android phone but its got to be close. Has android 2.1 for now and 2.2 is coming soon, with several improvements.


11 posted on 10/05/2010 11:31:09 AM PDT by DarthFuzball ("Life is full of little surprises." - Pandora)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; ...

12 posted on 10/05/2010 11:31:40 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: DarthFuzball

They recently announce the new MyTouch will run Android 2.2. It looks pretty nice.


13 posted on 10/05/2010 11:35:45 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: All

I just discovered that Microsoft is not supporting THEIR OWN Windows Mobile smartphones in the 64 bit version of Windows 7, with Outlook 2010. That is, no ActiveSync type functionality.

Anyone know if Android can sync up with Outlook 2010 under Win7 64?


14 posted on 10/05/2010 11:41:27 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Well my daughter is none too happy with her Android. She switched from a Blackberry to a Motorola with Android. Some how she mus downloaded an app with a virus. The virus sent emails from her contacts list.


15 posted on 10/05/2010 11:44:51 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: newheart

‘Apple can fix that overnight by ending the exclusive relationship with AT&T.”

Can they? If they could they probably would have by now. In my experience the people that want the iPhone are willing to switch to AT&T. So they’d take a bump but wouldn’t control the market.


16 posted on 10/05/2010 11:51:35 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: EyeGuy

“Anyone know if Android can sync up with Outlook 2010 under Win7 64?”

I have a guy doing that. wasn’t hard to set up at all to our exchange server.


17 posted on 10/05/2010 11:53:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Symbian is dead.

That right there shows your ignorance, or complete lack of consideration of anything outside the US. Nokia's selling around 260,000 smartphones a DAY - they do in a week what would be a great month for Apple. And many of what Nokia considers "feature phones" are actually as full-featured as the iPhone, meaning actual iPhone-like Nokia devices are even further ahead in daily sales.

Nokia's FAR from dead.

18 posted on 10/05/2010 11:54:56 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Windows phone 7 will be a better multi-tasker and more powerful than iOs or android, but more expensive and more battery unfriendly. RIM will retain market share for security functionality.

That said, I’m on my Dell Streak, and I love it. 5” android FTW.


19 posted on 10/05/2010 11:56:57 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: DarthFuzball

The Samsung Galaxy S (a.k.a., Captivate, Vibrant, Epic 4G, Fascinate) is the best Android phone out there. It has the most powerful graphics, the most energy-sipping and bright screen, and it stayed with a 5MP camera so the picture quality is good. The major downside is some versions don’t have a camera flash or a front-facing camera (the Epic is the only version that has both).


20 posted on 10/05/2010 11:58:44 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: driftdiver; EyeGuy

I do just that thing myself! I run Windows 7 x64 with Outlook 2010. I use Google Calendar Sync to synchronize my calendar and contacts with my GMail account.

Then my Android Tablet natively syncs with my GMail account, so it has those contacts and calendar entries.

And my WinMo phone connects to my GMail account as well to sync contacts and calendar.

This allows me to enter a contact or calendar appointment on my Win 7 laptop, my Android tablet, or my WinMo phone, and within a few minutes the entry has been propagated to the other devices, seamlessly. VERY slick and easy to do!

Also, consider SugarSync - I use it as a common “share” between my laptop, tablet, and phone (and any other computer I may borrow). A common 30 GB storage that’s accessible from all platforms. Nice to drop my presentations and latest docs I need to share there (typically PDFs and the like), so no matter where I am, and even if I have just my phone, I can still access what I want and show it/share it as needed.


21 posted on 10/05/2010 12:05:41 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: UB355
Well my daughter is none too happy with her Android. She switched from a Blackberry to a Motorola with Android. Some how she mus downloaded an app with a virus. The virus sent emails from her contacts list.

Does she sync her contact list with her laptop or computer? There have been trojans going around on computers that will spew out your contact lists...

Lots of the Apple Fans love to talk about viruses and malware on Android, but are amazingly silent when asked to provide proof. The fact is that there have been about as many problems in the Android Market as there have been in Apple's App Store - and that number for both is rather small.

22 posted on 10/05/2010 12:06:29 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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Windows phone 7 will be a better multi-tasker

Windows Phone 7 doesn't multitask. It doesn't copy/paste either. It's like iOS three years ago.

23 posted on 10/05/2010 12:15:25 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

I guess Bill Gates is telling me, if I want a smartphone, I need to upgrade to the Android or go the iPhone route.

Android does NOT have a subscription requirment ala Apple, correct? I have no need or desire the surf the internet from a cellphone.

I guess I really need to find some resources and read up on these new devices.


24 posted on 10/05/2010 12:21:21 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: antiRepublicrat
Windows Phone 7 doesn't multitask. It doesn't copy/paste either. It's like iOS three years ago.

The absence of copy/paste is supposed to be fixed after the initial release. Not sure about multitasking. From the early reviews I've seen, it's not "like" any other smartphone.

25 posted on 10/05/2010 12:23:18 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Android definitely benefits from having so many hardware manufacturers and carriers. I like my sister's Droid but it doesn't seem to be as fast as my son's iPhone3G when launching/running similar applications.

I'm on the hunt for a phone but will be waiting a few months before I make a decision on which smartphone to buy. A couple of the Android phones look very pretty - and useful. iPhone has been (and still is) the standard and will make my shortlist. I've almost ruled any Symbian phone off my list now. I really like what I've seen about the Windows Phone 7.

If I had to make my choice in the next 6 weeks, WP7 phone would win mainly due to its Office, Zune, and Live integration - but the hardware is rather important too. That said, I'm not committed to any new phone hardware or OS so I might just hang onto my 4-year-old hand-me-down Moto Razor as long as it continues to work.

26 posted on 10/05/2010 12:31:18 PM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
I have the Galaxy S from Sprint as the 'Samsung Epic'.

In another thread, you asked me:

"Ingenuity? That's a tricky one. The Galaxy is pretty much the standard high-end phone package. What seems to be the ingenuity part? The AMOLED screen?"

I'd almost taken time to simply respond 'Google Talk' a day or so later, but then it was announced that Apple was going to allow Google Talk to come to the iPhone even though Google still seems to be silent about it. Maybe iPhone people will get it after all.

Google Talk is pretty much changing my life.

27 posted on 10/05/2010 12:31:55 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
That right there shows your ignorance

In case you didn't notice, I was using the same over-the-top terminology of the article to make fun of it. RIM and the iPhone are obviously by no means dead.

complete lack of consideration of anything outside the US.

Speaking of that, Apple just started selling the iPhone 4 in China. Long lines, massive sales of course. Apple had 50,000 pre-orders on the first day for a $750-$900 phone.

Nokia's selling around 260,000 smartphones a DAY

There's inertia working for you. When WP7 comes out, Symbian will be the fifth most capable smart phone OS out there. People are already calling for the Nokia CEO to step down, and they're wondering when Nokia will switch to Android. Apple will continue to eat into Nokia's high-end sales, and Android will continue to eat into the low- and high-end sales. And then Microsoft will start taking some high-end sales too.

And many of what Nokia considers "feature phones" are actually as full-featured as the iPhone

Not even close.

28 posted on 10/05/2010 12:33:02 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
(the Epic is the only version that has both).

Check this out

29 posted on 10/05/2010 12:34:04 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: The KG9 Kid
I'd almost taken time to simply respond 'Google Talk' a day or so later

That's Google ingenuity, not something specific to the Galaxy S. Still, if not innovative, it is a great assortment of technologies in a decent package.

30 posted on 10/05/2010 12:36:20 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
WP7 does multitask - just not with all applications. The latest info I've read states that 3rd party apps aren't allowed to multitask (for now). All the 'native' WP7 applications multitask - including Office, Zune, compass, Live, Calendar, IE browser, imbedded FM radio, etc.

I believe it's an issue of CPU and power consumption control. Might be nice to have full multitasking but I haven't run into any application on my son's iPhone that I want running in the background that isn't one of those WP7 native applications. Of course I don't use a smartphone continuously through the day - it's possible I just haven't found that uber-app I want running at all times.

31 posted on 10/05/2010 12:41:00 PM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Love my Sprint EVO


32 posted on 10/05/2010 12:44:09 PM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: DesertSapper
All the 'native' WP7 applications multitask

That's the same with the iPhone, always has been. Apple just didn't let third-party apps freely multitask like Android does (there is controlled multitasking now). WP7 is starting in Apple's initial position, no third-party multitasking. A good example of useful multitasking would be playing music and running your GPS navigation at the same time, and then being able to check your Facebook/WWW/etc without stopping the others.

33 posted on 10/05/2010 12:55:42 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
A good example of useful multitasking would be playing music and running your GPS navigation at the same time, and then being able to check your Facebook/WWW/etc without stopping the others.

I'm not sure about a GPS navigation application but I believe that Zune, IE, imbedded radio have the music and any Facebook/WWW multitasking issues covered - because they are all 'native' applications. In fact, I've read you can even see some FB status updates on the main screen tiles if you want.

Not sure how it works with one 3rd party app running while other native apps are running in the background.

34 posted on 10/05/2010 1:21:16 PM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: DesertSapper
Not sure how it works with one 3rd party app running while other native apps are running in the background.

The Microsoft apps can still run, but as soon as you switch to one of them you lose your third-party app running. Basically, the problem is that lack of multitasking was a big complaint against Apple, so Apple introduced managed multitasking to allow it while saving batteries. Along comes Microsoft's latest and greatest phone OS, and it doesn't even do that.

It doesn't even do copy/paste, also an initial iPhone complaint, long-since rectified. It also doesn't do IPsec VPN. And for people who favor Android, WP7 also won't do Flash or allow removable SD cards. It's deficient in some way when compared to each of the main competitors. Right now, I can't see a reason to buy it, unless you just like the way it does the social networking thing.

In fact, I've read you can even see some FB status updates on the main screen tiles if you want.

There's an FB widget for Android too, and a Twitter one.

35 posted on 10/05/2010 1:38:40 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
All true. A quick google search shows how to add a front facing camera to the Vibrant though.

Known issues with Vibrant:
GPS software issues - OTA update completed waiting on rollout.
No handsfree on wired headset - Fixed in android 2.2 waitiing on rollout
No Adobe Flash - Fixed in 2.2 waiting on rollout.
No camera flash - No big deal for me, if i need pro pics, use good camera.

Overall great phone. Are there better phones out there? Maybe, but I'm happy so who cares.

36 posted on 10/05/2010 1:40:00 PM PDT by DarthFuzball ("Life is full of little surprises." - Pandora)
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To: DesertSapper
I like my sister's Droid but it doesn't seem to be as fast as my son's iPhone3G when launching/running similar applications.

I have my rooted Droid overclocked to 1Ghz (which is twice as fast as a stock Droid). All my apps run smooth as silk.

37 posted on 10/05/2010 1:48:51 PM PDT by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: tacticalogic
From the early reviews I've seen, it's not "like" any other smartphone.

I'll be happy if Microsoft finds another way of doing a smartphone that really works. I love competition, and it has kind of sucked that Microsoft's effectively been asleep for the last few years.

38 posted on 10/05/2010 2:01:38 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Sounds like you're reading more about WP7 than I am. I guess I'll see how all my options look early in 2011. If I remember correctly, even Google had huge problems with their Nexus1 phone initially. I'll let the early adopters deal with the growing pains and jump in a bit later.

I really don't like the look of a screen covered in tiny icons but like the idea of running apps in any combination I want. My sister loves the do-everything Droid - and complains of battery life of only 2-3 hours.

Until I have Dick Tracy's two-way-wrist-communicator with an imbedded Star Trek phaser and Intel Corei7 functionality, I'll probably remain unimpressed with at least a few things about these current smartphones.

39 posted on 10/05/2010 2:04:13 PM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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I guess I'll see how all my options look early in 2011.

There's always the old truism, never by a Microsoft product until version 3. You also don't buy an Apple product until version 2.

40 posted on 10/05/2010 2:23:33 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
I'll be happy if Microsoft finds another way of doing a smartphone that really works. I love competition, and it has kind of sucked that Microsoft's effectively been asleep for the last few years.

I guess it depends on your perspective. I'm an Exchange admin, and from where I'm sitting they've been pretty busy.

41 posted on 10/05/2010 2:39:45 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
I'm an Exchange admin, and from where I'm sitting they've been pretty busy.

2010 is pretty sweet. I was referring Microsoft being asleep in the mobile business, with the exception of briefly waking up to pull off the Kin fiasco.

42 posted on 10/05/2010 2:48:10 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: EyeGuy
Android does NOT have a subscription requirment ala Apple, correct? I have no need or desire the surf the internet from a cellphone.

I think you're referring to a data plan requirement? If so then No and Yes. No there is no requirement for a data plan that comes with Android. But Yes in that any Android phone is going to qualify as a "smart phone" and both AT&T and Verizon require a data plan with any smart phone on their network and will automatically add one to your account upon detection that you're using one. Success rates on evading detection have varied.

43 posted on 10/05/2010 3:55:02 PM PDT by MichiganMan (Oprah: Commercial Beef Agriculture=Bad, Commercial Chicken Agriculture=Good...Wait, WTF???)
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To: antiRepublicrat; DesertSapper

Wait, just a few posts earlier you stated WP7 doesn’t multitask, now you admit it multitasks like the iPhone. Which is it? Does it multitask or not?


44 posted on 10/05/2010 4:56:06 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Which is it? Does it multitask or not?

I've made that pretty clear. And, no, I did not say it multitasks like the iPhone. I said it multitasks like the iPhone used to -- showing it's clearly behind the times even on that issue.

45 posted on 10/05/2010 5:23:26 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
2010 is pretty sweet. I was referring Microsoft being asleep in the mobile business, with the exception of briefly waking up to pull off the Kin fiasco.

I'd be willing to bet that the Windows Phone will do better against the iPhone than Apple's mail and UM servers do against Exchange.

46 posted on 10/05/2010 6:46:47 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Android if fine..but mother@#$%^&g Motorola Droid sucks. I’ve not even had it a year and I only get five hours on a charge even after continually forcing apps to quit.

Sucks balls.


47 posted on 10/05/2010 6:48:34 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Try shutting down WIFI and GPS when not used. My M721 tablet lasts a good 9-10 hours when playing music from the SD card, reading a book, and a little light (~1 hour) browsing over WIFI.

Android has real multitasking, having extra apps running in the background usually does not degrade battery life, only if those apps are streaming WIFI, 3G, or GPS connections.


48 posted on 10/05/2010 7:12:18 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: MichiganMan

Right. The Data Plan.

When I initially bought my AT&T Tilt Smart Phone, I wanted a Data Plan, but had it removed after about a year. I wonder if they just require the Data Plan with a smart phone UPON PURCHASE, but allow you to cancel it later. I know that is definitely NOT allowed with the iPhone- you MUST maintain a data plan subscription.


49 posted on 10/05/2010 7:15:11 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

RE: Try shutting down WIFI and GPS when not used

I don’t keep those on. I shut them off and several times a day force quit all apps.


50 posted on 10/05/2010 7:27:39 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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