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Republicans beware: Mark Kirk is a liberal
http://dailycaller.com ^ | OCt 7,2010 | Tamara Holder

Posted on 10/07/2010 7:24:34 AM PDT by Maelstorm

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To: mac_truck
He's no Alan Keyes, if that what you mean.

He sure isn't.

The irony is that most of the GOP leadership, and in fact some posters on this thread, would much prefer hard-Left Mark Kirk to anyone remotely resembling Alan Keyes.

41 posted on 10/07/2010 8:09:16 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. - Psalm 118:8)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Interesting take, and suggests that losing this seat could possibly be better than winning it.

But that presumes that Alexi would actually be found guilty of something, that the Illinois legislature wouldn’t take away the power of the governor to appoint a successor, or the democratic majority in the Senate wouldn’t simply refuse to remove Alexi from office — which I can’t see them doing if it meant losing the majority in the senate.

But still, a differing point of view. Thanks for pointing me to it.


42 posted on 10/07/2010 8:12:20 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: earlJam

My strategy is not “vote for the most conservative candidate that can win”,

it’s “vote against the RINO in the primary, against the ‘rat in the general”.


43 posted on 10/07/2010 8:12:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: VRWCmember

The support for both of the two major party candidates is soft. A majority of people still don’t like either of them.
Kirk is a candidate that has been forced on Illinois by the Republican establishment. He did not debate once, they held the primary ridiculously in Feb. He will not allow open discussion of the issues. It is time to support a third party and with enough money Kirk and Alexi could be defeated.

Also if Kirk gets in he will never be gotten out. He is to the left of Mike Castle. On election day he will be a piece of crap on the top of the Tea Party cake. A mistake and error and a constant problem for us. Alexi on the otherhand if he wins will be as corrupt as he always was and because of that will be vulnerable. I don’t want either of them to win and I believe Mike Labno can win if we throw our support behind him and stop running back to the establishment skirts and false arguments about winning.

I’ve never heard a person say “Wow that car over there has a great hood ornament but looks like a piece of crap I think I’m going to buy it”. I’d support Kirk if he wasn’t a die-hard on abortion, didn’t support thought crimes, and wasn’t 100% anti-gun even to the point of receiving endorsements over the Democrat.

No win or lose Mike Labno is the only candidate on the Ballot for US Senate in Illinois that a conservative with any conscience could vote for. We don’t need Kirk. Let’s show some balls and kick him to the curb now rather than having to watch him betray us later as he has consistently in the past.


44 posted on 10/07/2010 8:16:49 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: GeronL

No they shouldn’t. Mark Kirk is a ‘John Kerry’ Republican. He clearly inflated his military service as a way to increase his political career. I find it disgusting personally because I know families who have lost loved ones who didn’t get to put on a uniform just for show and a tick on their resume.


45 posted on 10/07/2010 8:18:54 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Yes, Kirk is a liberal. Not quite as bad as Castle

It was important to make an example of someone, pour encourager les autres, and Castle was the right choice.

Kirk probably wouldn't make it into my lifeboat in normal times (by contrast, I think the snow bunnies are as good as it gets in Maine).

However, the times are abnormal, and Kirk will work for me as #50, whereas Castle wouldn't.

My advice for IL FReepers: Hold your nose and vote for him.

46 posted on 10/07/2010 8:18:54 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Just click your heels together three times...)
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To: Grunthor

Voted YES on limiting medical malpractice lawsuits to $250,000 damages. (May 2004)

Voted NO on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package. (Jan 2009)

Voted NO on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)

Voted YES on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism. (Sep 2001)

Keep sanctions against Syria until WMDs are dismantled. (May 2007)

Voted NO on granting Washington DC an Electoral vote & vote in Congress. (Apr 2007)

There are a bunch more issues that Kirk would support that no Democrat would. Yeah, he’s a socially liberal RINO, but he is still far better than a liberal Democrat.

http://www.ontheissues.org/IL/Mark_Kirk.htm


47 posted on 10/07/2010 8:19:55 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Thought it was a house seat....still....

RINOs are a large part of what got us here...I see no need to continue supporting them when they are just ‘Rats in disguise.....

48 posted on 10/07/2010 8:21:03 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Jedidah

Nothing is practical about electing Mark Kirk. He is worse than Mike Castle, he is worse than Olympia Snowe, he is worse than Susan Collins, and most certainly worse than John McCain.
He is to the left of Harry Reid on most issues. Would you elect Harry Reid to “win”?


49 posted on 10/07/2010 8:21:39 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: CharlesWayneCT
You are a voice, crying out in the wilderness.

The "Principled Conservatives" would rather destroy America than support anyone who is not sufficiently pure enough for their exhalted standards.

50 posted on 10/07/2010 8:26:11 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: Ingtar

Right now the polling shows most voters in Illinois do not want either of the major party candidates. They hate them both. Those that say they are certain of their vote is not a majority of the voters. Alexi may be bad but Kirk is worse because with Kirk he will be our albatross. The media will go on about how he proves the rule that “far left moderate Republicans are what we need to win”. I’ve never supported a Libertarian before other than Rand Paul who is running as a Republican but I have gotten to know Mike Labno. He is an honest principled hard working man who right now can not be on the campaign trail because he is working.

Win or lose I am tired of feeling dirty or keeping quiet while good men like Chuck DeVore, Patrick Hughes, and Mike Labno are ignored. Greatness is not achieved through compromise but great evil most surly has been.


51 posted on 10/07/2010 8:26:23 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Maelstorm

This article was written to help the Democrat win! It’s a political trap, for all non-leftist readers of this article! The MSM, really, wants all of the Democrats to “win it all”, any way that they can win, on November 2! The MSM doesn’t care about, either, Mike Labno, or Libertarianism, unless they can help Democrats win, on November 2! Don’t fall for this “puff piece” on Mike Labno, because the MSM is, just, trying to split the total non-leftist votes among the Libertarian candidate and the Republican candidate, on November 2!


52 posted on 10/07/2010 8:26:33 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Actually, the irony is that Mark Kirk might have stopped Obama in 2004 had he chosen to get into the race.


53 posted on 10/07/2010 8:27:38 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

There aren’t enough Dem legislators in IL that could remove that power to appoint on a purely partisan basis, since the GOP minority could sustain a veto (now, if the Combine all got together...). I believe, even with Alexi elected, the GOP will win a majority. I don’t expect Alexi to be in office long, anyhow (and if he tries to linger, with a criminal trial persisting, it will be more of a black eye to the Democrats and the WH). Brady won’t appoint Kirk (not with the way Kirk has been behaving towards Brady on the campaign trail... he would toss him under a bus). But, yes, that’s my take.


54 posted on 10/07/2010 8:28:17 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Link in post #9 explains everything.


55 posted on 10/07/2010 8:29:52 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: mac_truck
Actually, the irony is that Mark Kirk might have stopped Obama in 2004 had he chosen to get into the race.

So, support your Leftist, just because he's got an "R" by his name. Nothing I can do about it.

56 posted on 10/07/2010 8:31:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. - Psalm 118:8)
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To: Maelstorm

Honestly, I know the feelings you describe. I was simply trying to capture the Dim’s thinking as he penned the piece.


57 posted on 10/07/2010 8:31:44 AM PDT by Ingtar (If Washington and his peers had been RINOs, we would still be a British colony.)
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To: xkaydet65

He is also against cap and tax, and Obamacare.


58 posted on 10/07/2010 8:32:08 AM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: St. Louis Conservative
That’s not an endorsement of Kirk’s record, but I’ll take someone who voted against the stimulus, Obamacare, and FinReg over another leftist Obama hack. Plus, the symbolic victory of taking Obama’s senate seat means something.

The way I look at it is that Kirk is certainly no worse than the mob banker. And as I mentioned earlier Kirk will be much easier to get rid of. We proved in Alaska and Utah that the Tea party can defeat RINOs in a primary. But as you can see in New York, California and Washington it is very difficult to dispose of an incumbent democrat in a liberal state.

Either way in this election we are screwed for the next six years. At least with Kirk we will only be screwed for six years. It is like a choice between having your house infested by cockroaches or giant Japanese beetles. Neither is pleasant or desirable, but one is a heck of a lot easier to exterminate later.
59 posted on 10/07/2010 8:33:31 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Maelstorm

Harry Reid isn’t running in Illinois. Good try at diversion.

Kirk is a terrible man and a terrible candidate. But he’s better than his opponent.

That’s all that counts.

You can throw away your vote on an also-ran if you want. Free country and all that.


60 posted on 10/07/2010 8:34:40 AM PDT by Jedidah
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