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To: joeclarke

Keep in mind many of the founding fathers were Deists, not Christians. Thomas Jefferson went so far as to redact the New Testament to remove all supernatural events. He believed that Jesus was a great man but not Divine.

Sometimes I wonder if even our Founding Fathers could survive today’s conservative scrutiny. Beck is doing a LOT of good for this country, and since there is nobody absolutely perfect that will always say and do the right things ALL the time, to replace him, maybe giving him some slack is in order.


18 posted on 10/11/2010 5:32:22 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: HerrBlucher
Keep in mind many of the founding fathers were Deists, not Christians.

Bullshit....what all three of them?

BTW, being a Deist does not exclude the belief in Christ, unless you are following the DUmmie interpretations of it.....and I don't think you are.

21 posted on 10/11/2010 5:38:59 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremists use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: HerrBlucher
He believed that Jesus was a great man but not Divine.

There are a lot of mis-conceptions on the belief's of Jefferson.
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Most intriguing is the manner in which Jefferson dated an official document.
Instead of "in the year of our Lord," Jefferson used the phrase "in the year of our Lord Christ."

Christian historian David Barton has the proof ... the original document signed by Jefferson on the "eighteenth day of October in the year of our Lord Christ, 1804."

22 posted on 10/11/2010 5:47:37 PM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: HerrBlucher
"Keep in mind many of the founding fathers were Deists, not Christians." If you had been more attentive watching Glenn's show, you would know that your assertion is very inaccurate.

I will point out, since this thread is actually about Christian apologetics, that Glenn has a major inconsistency in his message if indeed he wishes to proselytize for Mormonism--and I am not yet persuaded that he is trying that. You see, Glenn has actually focused upon the deeply Christian character of the founding fathers, yet his chosen religion is founded upon the specious notion that ALL of Christianity was in TOTAL Apostasy since the second century until the coming of Joseph Smith to restore Christianity in the 1830's.

The founders would not have had the 'benefit' of restoration thus their Christian character would be anathema to the assertions of the man who founded Glenn's religion!

26 posted on 10/11/2010 6:18:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: HerrBlucher

You need to do a bit more study on that subject. The deism of the founding fathers is a narrative of liberals. A few were deists. Most were Christians. No apologies there. Out and out Christians. The redactions from the Jefferson bible also have a different purpose than one would suppose. Be careful to not perpetuate the seeds of falsehood that the left deliberately sowed in our history books.


85 posted on 10/12/2010 9:10:51 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: HerrBlucher

“Keep in mind many of the founding fathers were Deists, not Christians. “

Mel Bradford disposed of that myth years ago in his book “Founding Fathers”. Franklin, Jefferson, Paine, and Ethan Allen were deists. But the vast majority of the founders were Christians of various denominations.


108 posted on 10/12/2010 10:58:19 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: HerrBlucher

Do you actually watch Beck?


117 posted on 10/13/2010 5:37:43 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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