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Lucille Ball, a Beautiful Genius, Major Talent and Communist Party Member
Crime File News ^ | 10/9/10

Posted on 10/11/2010 7:54:08 PM PDT by FromLori

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To: iowamark
I was under the impression that steward and fonda were roomies and life long friends struggling artist from the start.
61 posted on 10/11/2010 9:07:11 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: HerrBlucher; guitarplayer1953

Although James Stewart and Henry Fonda were best friends, they were polar opposites politically. I’m not sure Fonda was a Communist, but he was definitely a liberal, and he did support his daughter’s activism. Both he and Stewart served their country in WWII.


62 posted on 10/11/2010 9:07:31 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Borges

Freepers will have to watch the clever depictions of conscientious, decent Americans on the jury and make up their own minds. You see it one way; I see it another. In my graduate studies of propaganda films, it was considered a masterpiece of agitprop.


63 posted on 10/11/2010 9:07:34 PM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: Borges

It was way too much like the UN. Prime directive nonsense.

The whole cast were Canadian. It was like Second City sci fi. At least UFO had an American in the lead and he was ex-military. LAter in life he was a lefty.


64 posted on 10/11/2010 9:07:39 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: hampdenkid

In your graduate study of propaganda films, what arguments were put forward to support that thesis? You can say that virtually ALL films have a ‘message’ of some sort. A view of human nature.


65 posted on 10/11/2010 9:09:40 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Frantzie
The whole cast were Canadian

LOL! That's an argument? Come on dude! :)

It imagined Earth as part of an Intergalactic Federation of some sort. Most SF after Asimov's Foundation shares some notion of that.


66 posted on 10/11/2010 9:11:52 PM PDT by Borges
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To: babble-on

I’d read that actors and actresses would be invited to parties and persuaded to sign up for “good causes” only to find that they’d signed up for communist-backed activities.


67 posted on 10/11/2010 9:12:17 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: fantom

Jimmy Stewart was a bomber pilot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoY8Cj1larg

He was a real B-24 combat pilot. These commies like Lucy, Lloyd Bridges and Henry Fonda were filthy commie scum.

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“In August 1943 he was finally assigned to the 445th Bombardment Group in Sioux City, Iowa, first as Operations Officer of the 703rd Bombardment Squadron and then its commander. In December, the 445th Bombardment Group flew its B-24 Liberator bombers to RAF Tibenham, England and immediately began combat operations. While flying missions over Germany, Stewart was promoted to Major. In March 1944, he was transferred as group operations officer to the 453rd Bombardment Group, a new B-24 outfit that had been experiencing difficulties. As a means to inspire his new group, Stewart flew as command pilot in the lead B-24 on numerous missions deep into Nazi-occupied Europe. These missions went uncounted at Stewart’s orders. His “official” total is listed as 20 and are limited to those with the 445th. In 1944, he twice received the Distinguished Flying Cross for actions in combat and was awarded the Croix de Guerre. He also received the Air Medal with three oak leaf clusters. In July 1944, after flying 20 combat missions, Stewart was made chief of staff of the 2nd Combat Bombardment Wing of the Eighth Air Force. Before the war ended, he was promoted to colonel, one of only a few Americans to rise from private to colonel in four years.”


68 posted on 10/11/2010 9:19:15 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Frantzie

You sure are quick to impugn people. Henry Fonda was a decorated Air Combat vet. Lloyd Bridges was cleared by the FBI in the early 1950s.


69 posted on 10/11/2010 9:22:30 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Frantzie

You sure are quick to impugn people. Henry Fonda was a decorated Air Combat vet. Lloyd Bridges was cleared by the FBI in the early 1950s.


70 posted on 10/11/2010 9:23:02 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I stand corrected. HUAC, then. Thanks for letting me know.


71 posted on 10/11/2010 9:24:55 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
In both of those movies, Honda defends the pursuit of truth and is vindicated.

Can't speak for The Ox-Bow Incident. I saw it not too long ago for the first time and I think something bugged me about it, but darned if I can remember. I suggest, though, you go back and watch Twelve Angry Men again with a more unbiased eye. For crying out loud, he might as well have been the defense attorney, making up excuses and analyzing the evidence. In our country the jury is only to consider the evidence put before them, not go out and do independent research. He went himself to the store where the murder weapon was purchased, recreated the murder scene in the jury room, asserted that the eyewitness really didn't see clearly because he wore glasses and probably wasn't wearing them at the time, and made socialist arguments about society's guilt.

If I was a jurist in that trial I would have reported him to the judge. All the ridiculous assumptions he made were never allowed to be rebutted by the DA because they were never made in the courtroom. Yet this was the "evidence" they used to acquit the defendent.

The whole storyline was a precursor to the whole "racial profiling" argument, and Fonda specifically took on this project because of it.

Besides, I heard Fonda was a complete SOB.

72 posted on 10/11/2010 9:34:13 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: hampdenkid

Well, you just called me a communist, you arrogant jackass.


73 posted on 10/11/2010 9:36:10 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority (What this country needs is an enema.)
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To: Shethink13
I thought Twelve Angry Men was a good movie and certainly the concept of a jury making sure of its verdict beyond a reasonable doubt was highlighted and supported within it.

Time has proven a surprisingly high number of innocent people have been convicted and if it's a capital crime, the defendant pays for such a mistake with his life.

74 posted on 10/11/2010 9:44:37 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority (What this country needs is an enema.)
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To: nuconvert

No, she wasn’t. I worked in the film industry and I know her biography well. Her grandfather registered as a socialist. The statement that was made about her when her politics were questioned was “the ONLY thing red about her was her hair.”


75 posted on 10/11/2010 9:46:02 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Jimmy Stewart was a Reserve BG in the Air Force Reserve.


76 posted on 10/11/2010 9:46:18 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: Shethink13

Fonda’s speeches about ‘society’s guilt’ were the weakest elements of the film and thankfully they don’t go on too long. The knife thing was a contrivance to geenrate drama and it certainly worked. It’s a very well constructed piece of drama with each character coming of as a distinct ‘type’. Writer Reginal Rose later wrote the great TV film ‘Escape from Sorbibor’.


77 posted on 10/11/2010 9:46:18 PM PDT by Borges
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To: boop

“Reagan was friends with everyone in Hollywood it seems. Lots of friends on the left”

Reagan’s politics changed when he married Nancy Davis. Never underestimate the influence of a woman on a man.


78 posted on 10/11/2010 9:48:34 PM PDT by devere
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
I thought Twelve Angry Men was a good movie and certainly the concept of a jury making sure of its verdict beyond a reasonable doubt was highlighted and supported within it.

Making sure of it's verdict? They went well beyond that. Beside the fact that if found guilty there can always be an appeal, but once acquitted double jeopardy goes into effect, I'm pretty sure they have yet to find anyone that was later proved innocent that received the death penalty.

This movie is a pure societal statement from beginning to end. It drives me crazy.

79 posted on 10/11/2010 9:55:55 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: Shethink13
All Art is a ‘societal statement’. 12 Angry Men is more about interpersonal drama and how easily a group can be swayed than anything precisely political.
80 posted on 10/11/2010 9:57:20 PM PDT by Borges
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