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To: omegadawn

Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1790 states that those Children born to American citizens( even outside of our borders) are Natural born . The founding fathers felt that loyalty to our nation was derived from the parents. The founding fathers DID NOT recogize JUS SOLI( BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL) as grounds for citizenship. Anchor babies have no right to citizenship as their parents have no allegiance to the U.S.


The Fourteenth Amendment changed that position. That’s why the Founders made it possible to alter their views and their work in later generations.
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”

George W.Bush appointed a second generation anchor baby: Alberto Gonzales to be the US chief law enforcement officer as Attorney General of the United States and he appointed a Muslim anchor baby from Afghanistan, Dr. Zalmay Khalilziad to be United States ambassador to the United Nations.

“To hold that the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution excludes from citizenship the children, born in the United States, of citizens or subjects of other countries would be to deny citizenship to thousands of persons of English, Scotch, Irish, German, or other European parentage who have always been considered and treated as citizens of the United States.” —Supreme Court of the United States, “US v Wong Kim Ark” (1898)

“It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage; but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will, therefore, be unnecessary to examine any other.”—1789, Congressman James Madison, Founding Father, Primary author of the US Constitution and soon to become the 4th President of the United States.


32 posted on 10/12/2010 8:30:58 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

The 14 th amendment did not address Natural born Citizenship as required by Article 2. The wording “Subject to the jurisdiction” refers to the allegiance of the parents. If a person born in the U.S. has parents that owe their allegiance to the U.S. , then they are citizens.


33 posted on 10/12/2010 9:43:30 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: jamese777
“It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage; but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will, therefore, be unnecessary to examine any other.”—1789, Congressman James Madison, Founding Father, Primary author of the US Constitution and soon to become the 4th President of the United States.

Still citing that edited & taken out of context quote you cut & pasted from DrConspiracy or one of the other left wing propaganda sites I see.

34 posted on 10/13/2010 12:21:11 AM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: jamese777

Wong Kim Ark does NOT apply to the issue of Obama’s ineligibility. The 14th amendment did NOT change the requirements of the Constitution with regard to NATURAL BORN citizenship. It addressed common citizenship. Read the extensive comments at the WTPOTUS blog for clarification. Please don’t just cut and paste someone else’s incorrect arguments.


44 posted on 10/13/2010 9:41:49 AM PDT by Greenperson
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