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Mysterious missile launch most likely US Air flight 808
Island Turtle ^ | November 11, 2010 | Corky Boyd

Posted on 11/10/2010 12:27:27 AM PST by Corky Boyd

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To: screaminsunshine
Have you ever seen a live shot?

The subject is a video. What difference does viewing a live shot make?

161 posted on 11/10/2010 3:34:06 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: screaminsunshine
Me too I grew up in Cocoa Beach. That sucker is a missile. Not a jet. It is a sub orbital SRB. And it stages at the end of the clip.

Why didn't the Flight 808 pilot say anything about it. It must have missed him by inches!

162 posted on 11/10/2010 3:35:20 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: screaminsunshine
Have you ever seen a live shot?

No, I haven't.

Did you see the incident in question live, or are you basing your opinion on the video and/or screenshots?

163 posted on 11/10/2010 3:35:26 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: screaminsunshine
Notice the puffs on the SRB. That is exhaust. Not contrail.

SRBs don't puff. They burn constantly. Perhaps you are thinking about ram-jets.

164 posted on 11/10/2010 3:37:18 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: screaminsunshine
Me too I grew up in Cocoa Beach. That sucker is a missile. Not a jet. It is a sub orbital SRB. And it stages at the end of the clip.

As a missile expert, could you tell me how long it would take for a missile to reach the altitude shown in these screenshots? http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/gallery/2010/11/09/mystery-missile-launch-off-california/#photo-1

Take a close look at the trailing end of the contrail/plume/whatever in the first image. To me the spread to the left looks like what you'd get from high altitude winds blowing on a persistent contrail over a period of at least a half hour. Can you say that that it would spread in a similar way in the timespan you think it would take for a missile to get to the altitude you think it's at?

165 posted on 11/10/2010 4:15:46 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: arthurus

Reavers!


166 posted on 11/10/2010 5:37:15 PM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: TigersEye
No kidding!!

Check this out and tell me it wasn't a sub:

Submarine Missile Launch

167 posted on 11/10/2010 6:45:43 PM PST by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: TigersEye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl37UZvFsz0


168 posted on 11/10/2010 6:55:53 PM PST by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Rush Limbaugh is also convinced it’s no airplane. I’m glad we have his take on board — that took guts.


169 posted on 11/11/2010 5:41:15 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: screaminsunshine
And it stages at the end of the clip.

That is why I'm not convinced it's a contrail.

170 posted on 11/11/2010 5:47:57 AM PST by jersey117
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To: TigersEye; Grampa Dave; BIGLOOK; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; NormsRevenge
ROFL!

There Blue Whales out in that general area this summer...wonder if we had any sonar on then?

171 posted on 11/11/2010 11:04:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Typo correction:

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There were Blue Whales out in that general area this summer...wonder if we had any sonar on then?

172 posted on 11/11/2010 11:12:18 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Corky Boyd; Grampa Dave; BIGLOOK
From link at the article website:

11/9/2010 ---- A Graphic Representation of the Path of That “Missile”

Do read what is said...the picture is a construction....

Some interesting comments also...

173 posted on 11/11/2010 11:22:32 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Wissa
Thank you for answering my question. It seems like many of FReepers most certain that this was a condensation trail versus the plume of a missile launch, have never actually SEEN a missile launch, let alone many dozens of them.

Becuase I HAVE, when I look at this video I know that what I see with regard to the actual trail produced by the object, is NOT condensation from two engines, but the plume of solid fuel from ONE engine.

174 posted on 11/11/2010 11:29:46 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny
Another website into the discussion....Graphics and photos:

the Air Vent

175 posted on 11/11/2010 11:38:48 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Wissa; screaminsunshine
Wissa, you seem to miss the connection between having seen a live missile shot (or more likely several per year for as many years as we've lived on the Ca. coast) and the ability to identify one on video, versus never having seen a live missile shot, and the ability to identify one on video.

Perhaps you labor under the impression that while some of us who understand that the contrail explanation is a scam have seen many missile shots per year, we have never noticed airplane contrails that resemble plumes from missiles? Is it that you think we've never seen those live, as opposed to on video or (worse) in still shots?

We've seen live missile shots, and we've seen film of them. You've only seen film.

Guess whose conclusions I am going to give more credence?

176 posted on 11/11/2010 11:42:58 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny
Becuase I HAVE, when I look at this video I know that what I see with regard to the actual trail produced by the object, is NOT condensation from two engines, but the plume of solid fuel from ONE engine.

I have no doubt you'd hold that belief no matter how much incontrovertible evidence there was against it.

177 posted on 11/11/2010 11:44:44 AM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: JoenTX
What you said. This place has too much tinfoil sometimes.
178 posted on 11/11/2010 11:48:53 AM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: All; TigersEye; Grampa Dave; BIGLOOK; NormsRevenge
Discussion of the NOTAM for the area getting heavy discussion....in the comments at the Air Vent ...see link just above...#175.
179 posted on 11/11/2010 11:48:59 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: SeeSac
Please point out these 'whole lotta' on FR.

Do your own work, pal. It actually takes the willingness and ability to read. That you are too lazy or too slow to do it is your problem. And frankly, when you show a pic of what you claim is a contrail made by an airplane, who the hell are YOU to think everyone here should automatically believe it (when they certainly could be missile shots mislabeled as airplane contrails)?

Why shouldn't I doubt you as much as you doubt callers to local radio stations and FReepers, most of whose posts you obviously have not read? If you had READ the posts, you'd know which FReepers who were eminently qualified (I admit!) think this was a contrail, and who give me second thoughts about my own opinion, and which FReepers who are eminently qualified, and whose posts I've read for years and who are like old acquaintances (not strangers), think as I do: that this was a missile and that for some reason, the gov't is hiding something. BUT since you are too lazy or too slow to read them yourself, you want me to go to the many, many hours of work it would take to "point out these 'whole lotta' on FR."

You have not read or heard much at all, clearly, and you are too lazy to do the honest work yourself. Which means your opinions are based on what you want to believe, not on what you have concluded through reading and reflection.

In this matter, you behave like a hypocrite with double standards.

180 posted on 11/11/2010 11:55:20 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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