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"Mystery" Contrail Was Either US Airways Flight 808 or UPS Cargo Flight 902
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| 11-09-10
| Liam Bahneman
Posted on 11/18/2010 6:19:00 AM PST by alg1921
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Quite an exhaustive investigation, far beyond the initial helicopter news footage, which compellingly identifies a UPS cargo aircraft as being the source of the plume in the sky, which was first theorized as being caused by a missile.
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posted on
11/18/2010 6:19:02 AM PST
by
alg1921
To: lbahneman
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posted on
11/18/2010 6:20:31 AM PST
by
kanawa
(Obama - "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.")
To: alg1921
It was a test.
And we failed.
To: trickyricky
To: alg1921
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posted on
11/18/2010 6:23:40 AM PST
by
justlurking
(The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
To: trickyricky; All
I really wish it had been a contrail....but it wasn’t.
I’d bet my life on it.
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posted on
11/18/2010 6:24:11 AM PST
by
Halgr
(Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
To: Halgr
You didn’t see what you saw, 2+2=5 and we’ve always been at war with East Asia.
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posted on
11/18/2010 6:27:38 AM PST
by
GeorgiaDawg32
(Why protest fur and not leather? Ever try to hassle a motorcycle gang?)
To: alg1921
News helicopter photographer Gil Leyvas's
raw videoThe video shows a payload rising on a solid-fuel booster rocket. Distance to rocket, maybe 30 to 40 miles seen from a chase angle. You can even see a flame.
It's either a missile, a lone booster or a boosted payload, launched from the middle of the ordnance testing range: NAS Point Mugu.
San Nicolas island (part of NAS Mugu) is right under the putative launch point.
Don't know why FReepers are so quick to credit 'exhaustive investigations' and ignore the evidence of their own eyes. There's video.
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posted on
11/18/2010 6:28:35 AM PST
by
agere_contra
(...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
To: agere_contra
Don't know why FReepers are so quick to credit 'exhaustive investigations' and ignore the evidence of their own eyes.Because interpetation of visual data can be faulty.
It can be influenced by preconceived notions, perspective illusions, contrast and color effects.
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posted on
11/18/2010 6:52:22 AM PST
by
kanawa
(Obama - "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.")
To: alg1921
All we need now is polarik to tell us it was a forgery. And provide “proof” that changes by the minute...as soon as the last “proof” doesn’t pan out.
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posted on
11/18/2010 7:00:28 AM PST
by
MestaMachine
(Farrago fatigans! - Thuffering thuccotash!)
To: kanawa
It can be influenced by preconceived notions, perspective illusions, contrast and color effects. And digital artifacts. A digital video camera essentially does approximations between frames and records only a limited set of differences. At extreme ranges, extremes in contrast, and limited bandwidth, the artifacts can become significant.
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posted on
11/18/2010 7:02:36 AM PST
by
justlurking
(The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
To: justlurking
I have seen the launch of an ICBM. This plume mirrors that exactly.
I do not like being lied to.
To: agere_contra
I am inclined to agree with you - I have never seen a plane with flames coming out of the back end! There is no getting around that fact on the video.
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posted on
11/18/2010 7:14:59 AM PST
by
MissH
To: Halgr
"I really wish it had been a contrail....but it wasnt." Of course it wasn't.
Probing and testing the enemy is an essential preliminary to combat.
To: alg1921
Quite an exhaustive investigation, far beyond the initial helicopter news footage, which compellingly identifies a UPS cargo aircraft as being the source of the plume in the sky, which was first theorized as being caused by a missile.How could they tell that it was UPS 902? Was the smoke brown? :-)
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posted on
11/18/2010 7:24:23 AM PST
by
meyer
(Hey Obama - It's the end of the world as you know it.... ..... and I feel fine!)
To: alg1921
Dude it was a missile. Numerous experts have viewed the film footage and have said without a shred of doubt it was an ICBM missile launched from a submarine. It was not flight 808 or the UPS. It was most likely the Chi Coms expressing their displeasure with the US for trying to do a stealth default on our debt to them by devaluing our dollar. Stop with the plane scenario already. We are all grown ups. It was a missile. The world is a dangerous place. It just got more dangerous.
To: alg1921
What a crock.
I find it awfully coincidental that this happened right around the time there was talk for restarting the START talks with Russia.
I know Ubama doesn't have the nads to send Russia a message so I know WE didn't launch it.
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posted on
11/18/2010 7:25:08 AM PST
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
To: alg1921
It was this guy. He was smoking a big ol' honkin' cigar and he got caught in a huge updraft.
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posted on
11/18/2010 7:27:09 AM PST
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
To: Matthew James
"SLBM" When TSHTF we ain't gonna know what hit us.
Our reaction time was like Sonny Liston vs Cassius Clay.
Hey, wait a minute, Sonny took a dive, didn't he?
Hmmmmm.
To: I Buried My Guns
“I do not like being lied to”.
Me either but I guess I am getting used to it. I have no expertise in this sort of thing but I don’t believe the government at all. They tell us what they want us to believe and they can make any sort of documents/photos/statements look like what they want us to believe. Nothing here folks, just move along. Just a thought.
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