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Rubber bullets for Agent Terry? (A Janet Napolitano "MAN MADE DISASTER?)
Examiner ^ | December 16, 2010 | Rick Oltman

Posted on 12/17/2010 1:22:47 PM PST by yoe

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To: yoe

She’s got blood on her hands! she needs to be removed


21 posted on 12/17/2010 2:25:36 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: no-to-illegals

this won’t go away anytme soon if the agent was not armed to protect Himself. Everyone know what is happening in Mexico, that it’s coming our way, that zer0 is doing NOTHING about it.


22 posted on 12/17/2010 2:36:19 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: OldDeckHand
While it is easy to believe that the federal agent may have been carrying a non-lethal weapon, it strains credulity to assert that was the only weapon he was carrying.

You are correct, he would have at least had his side arm at all times. I served 25 years as a Border Patrol Agent and was also a member of BORTAC (now retired). If he had any beanbag rounds in his 870 then he loaded them, probably just the first one and the rest were .00 or slugs.

No BORTAC Agent or any other Border Patrol Agent for that matter would go into that area with only non-lethal force. Agents are not under the UCMJ and are under no obligations to follow a stupid order that would likely get them killed.

23 posted on 12/17/2010 2:47:25 PM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


24 posted on 12/17/2010 3:01:16 PM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from the back porch...)
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To: reefdiver

I certainly do not want this to go away. I want it verified. and I agree it is already here and more is coming.


25 posted on 12/17/2010 3:11:13 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: xrmusn
After the 9/11 attacks when the airports reopened some had National Guard Troops patrolling them.

I was in the National Guard in 1954, we got no ammo then either.

26 posted on 12/17/2010 3:30:53 PM PST by itsahoot (We the people, allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: OldDeckHand
I don't believe they'd be actually in the field entirely absent a fully-lethal weapon.

And yet our troops in combat are required to not have a round in chamber. I guess they wouldn't have a chance to get that coveted Unusual Restrain badge otherwise.

27 posted on 12/17/2010 3:33:32 PM PST by itsahoot (We the people, allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: OldDeckHand

You are correct. He was armed with a sidearm.

But the last time I saw the agent who was KIA, he had an AR and full kit, as did his partner. That was several months ago. What changed in the interim?


28 posted on 12/17/2010 3:41:12 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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"What changed in the interim?"

Janet gained more power over him

29 posted on 12/17/2010 4:54:41 PM PST by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: yoe; mylife; davetex
Per WND

It is not widely reported by our news media that the smugglers maintain a dozen or more permanent lookout posts on desert hilltops inside the U.S., and that those lookout posts are manned in week-long shifts by individuals who commute not from Mexico but from Phoenix, Tucson and other Arizona cities.

Bean bags vs. AK-47s

30 posted on 12/18/2010 11:03:01 AM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: smokingfrog

My buddy has buzzed those lookouts with his plane many times.

I draws gunfire.


31 posted on 12/18/2010 11:18:41 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

That’s crazy! Has his plane ever been hit?


32 posted on 12/18/2010 11:23:21 AM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: smokingfrog

No.

He is an Apache pilot and has been to iraq and afghanistan several times.

He is on his way back to the stan now.

These coyotes dont really get him to worked up.


33 posted on 12/18/2010 11:34:27 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Irenic

Just part of the Big Plan

SO let me get this straight, We should have “Congress” do an investigation into whether or not we need Border Security? I hate to rain on everyones parade, and I truly feel sorry for This Mans family. But if you think we are ever going to Close the Border between Mexico and The US, you are CRAZY. We need the Border open, we need these vast corridors of FEDERAL LAND unchecked by Border Patrol and Police. 80% to 90% of ALL “ILLEGAL CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES” come across our Southern Border, 50% alone come through this very corridor. What would happen if we Closed it?? The DRUG WAR WOULD BE OVER, we would have to FIRE 2/3 to 3/4 of ALL Police and Sheriffs,more than Half the Judges, Close down 75% of our Jails and Prisons, Probation Depts, and all associated services, the list is endless. Basically we would have to eliminate about 50% of ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT across ALL SECTORS of GOVERNMENT, and all the Staff necessary to carry out their functions.. Entire Industries would vanish overnight. Next what would we do with the BILLIONS and BILLIONS of Dollars we currently Extract from the American People to Fight the War on Drugs?? What would happen to the Largest Banks in the US, you know the ones TOO BIG TO FAIL, Currently they enjoy a mighty PROFIT from LAUNDERING DRUG MONEY and when they get caught, they usually pay a fine of about 10% of their ILLEGAL PROFITS. See Bank of America and Wells Fargo. Who would Fund the CIA?? I could go on all day, but the bottom line is WE CANNOT SECURE OUR BORDERS AND HAVE A DRUG WAR, And to be honest the DRUG WAR is MORE PROFITABLE FOR GOVERNMENT, So if we experience some COLLATERAL DAMAGE occasionally SO BE IT. WE CANNOT EVER CLOSE THE BORDER, GET OVER IT.


34 posted on 12/18/2010 11:34:35 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: smokingfrog

Got his chopper shot up real good in the mountains near Musa Qala.

No casualties.


35 posted on 12/18/2010 11:36:38 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: smokingfrog

Unbelievable, time for some of our guys to take the high ground.


36 posted on 12/18/2010 11:38:54 AM PST by davetex (All my weapons got melted by a meteor!! No Sh*t)
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