[wardaddy]

what is more telling is that after all these years and so many women who know intimate details about Hefner, none including some from bitter breakups...have really talked much and many still come around to show up for sentimental events

it's an odd setting...like an continual pan sexual orgy and Bacchanalia carried on in a co-ed college dorm but with a dorm mother...and Otter has gotten way too old

[Cardhu]

It is much tamer than the tabloids would have you believe. He fills the place with nubiles as wallpaper for his Mansion but most never even see him.

My niece, who worked for Disney, was several timeas a guest at the Playboy Mansion some 12, 14 years ago. In fact, that is where I had the police contact her when her father was taken to hospital in the south of Spain with a cardiac arrest. It is just like an hotel they have a guest list at the lodge and can page them. We both went there to be with him for the second bypass operation.

As is usual in these case of a second bypass in old age the heart is so weak as not to be able to function once they try to take them off the heart bypass machine.

These days they can do it without stopping the heart but not then.