[WayneS]

“Kim’s objection to the pledge, she says, is that the ideals it speaks of are not reality, specifically its conclusion, which says “with liberty and justice for all.” Kim says the nation is just not there yet.”

Okay, so because we are "not there yet" you have decided the quest is not worth undertaking? That's one lame-a$$ reason for NOT reciting the Pledge of Allegience.

It seems to me that any decent person who believed we are "not there yet" would undertake to re-double his/her efforts to get us there -- IF he/she genuinely cared about the ideals in question, that is. And THAT'S the crux of it, right there, Ms. Kim, isn't it? YOU don't really believe in or care about the ideals and principles upon which this country was founded, do you?

[CIDKauf]

You beat to the obvious. So, by your refusal, you’re saying that you are against liberty and justice for all?

[Persevero]

It’s true, there is no liberty and justice for all, here. I think of the unborn. Where is their liberty and justice?

My solution, though, is not to dramatically avoid the pledge, but rather to work to make it more of a reality.