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To: jmaroneps37

This is stupid! So, because another govt agent was killed its all the rage to talk about how worthless the ATF is. We should have had this discussion after Waco. Then again the media painted (marginalized) the Davidians as nut cases. That made those murders all OK. Its long past time to shut the ATF down completely. However, Congress just cant pluck the courage up or nerve to do such a thing. Frankly, I think most in DC relish these sorts of events. It numbs down the ‘masses’ so the next atrocity won’t seem not so bad. So, whats it going to take to bring the ATF in tow? I suspect there isn’t such an event.


4 posted on 02/11/2011 8:15:50 AM PST by 556x45
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To: 556x45
the diff between waco, ruby ridge and this gunwalker scenario, is that the goon literally killed one of their own fed agent brethren...which is prolly the motivation behind the whistleblower agents coming forward...

unfortunately, it often takes this to make some guys speak up against the system and their own careers...where if it was just a citizen, the charade would continue...

even here, it was almost swept entirely under the rug except for 'fringe' blogosphere like sipseystreet and examiner...

BP agent Terry mightve done more for his country in his death than the last 20 congresses combined...

5 posted on 02/11/2011 8:29:52 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: 556x45
“We should have had this discussion after Waco.”

You are correct. I thought at the time that the Republicans could have owned the government for the next 30 years if they had pursued WACO diligently. But they didn't. They were completely cowed by the MSM and the Progressives by both parties.

Now we will see how much power the MSM has lost and the new media has gained. That is the big difference.

6 posted on 02/11/2011 8:52:11 AM PST by marktwain
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