To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
They can never get to first base with a reformation, because the quran is plain on this point.Those who say Islam needs a Reformation don't know what they're talking about.
The Protestant Reformation, at least in its origin and intent, was an attempt to return to the written basis of Christianity, removing the accretions of tradition.
That is exactly what the Islamists are attempting to do for Islam.
Islamism IS the Islamic Reformation.
What it teaches is a whole lot closer to what Mohammed taught than people of the West would prefer.
To: Sherman Logan
I’d call what you’re describing (radical islamism) a restoration rather than a reformation. People generally regard the Reformation as a movement that brought Christianity forward to more modern times, rather than a step back toward its pristine origins. However, you say potayto, I say pototto, we all know what we mean.
And Islam being what it is, I don’t think it’s possible to make a silk purse there. But many muslims do think so.
To: Sherman Logan
When people say they want a Reformation in Islam, they show their confusion. Sunni Islam has had many reformations, all installing Salafist type groups. The earliest known to European were the Almoravid dynasty in Spain and Nothern Africa. Their name meant "ready for battle", ie Jihad. When they were seen as corrupted, they were overthrown by the Almohad Caliphate. The term Almohad, al-Muwahhidun, or Unitarians. I don't mean our unitarians, rather religious fanatics who saw the mere presense of Jews and Christians as corrupting the unity of Islam.
What well intentioned mean, but lack the historical knowledge to say, is that they seek an Islam, which abides by the terms of the Treat of Westphalia, which ended the 30 years war.
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02/13/2011 6:02:01 PM PST by
rmlew
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