I don't disagree with you seizethecarp (great name), and find the queries about Obama/Soetoro/Dunham’s past intriguing too. But the chances that any of these stories is verifiable are extremely small. When few of us don't understand the requirement that our president be born of citizen parents, and no one doesn't know that Barak Sr. was never a citizen, that seems the brick we must remove.
The only way, since our judiciary and legislature have been co-opted, is through the people, the way the House was returned to people whose ties to lobbyists have not yet corrupted them. Too many justifiably frightened people cling to a vain hope hope that some adventurer will uncover proof of where where Obama was born, and to whom. If our intelligence agencies, state department, all legislators, judges and justices, and military, are complicit, and they demonstrably are, there is next to no chance of finding that needle. There may be no needle. So few people have ever attested to having known the man, and what presumably remained of his immediate family which conveniently expired just before the election, focusing on the dry stuff. the facts, seems the path most likely to bear fruit.
Add the legislature and Governor of Arizona to the list of those covering up the truth, and the problem is probably deeper than I can imagine. What were they told, with what were they threatened, that caused them to try to amend the Constitution, and risk angering their constituents? Arizona lawmakers like Obama, must know that the rules are about to change. Assume they are normal; their self interest guides them to fear government more than their constituents. They followed McCain's many law suits for almost a decade, and knew that whatever resolution of his eligibility was claimed was based upon his two citizen parents. Their eligibility statute, claiming that having but a single citizen parent is the Constitutional definition required for presidential eligibility, is such obvious fraud, such a blatent effort to give Obama more time to destroy what remains of our economy and thus our military, that Arizona voters should consider impeachment - if they still care about a consitutional republic?
There may already be tacit agreement that our government is for show; judges and legislators may be going through the motions until the time comes to announce a new kind of government, perhaps an alliance, but perhaps one like China, which makes no effort to lie about its ends or means. Will they wait until there are food lines, a crippling attack, unionized police taking over our cities?
The eligibility verification statute, had it been truthful about our Constitution, might have hindered Obama's victory in the 2012 elections. So Arizona lawmakers wrote a fraudulent statute, presumably hoping that citizens would not be bright enough to notice before it was too late.
If enough learn about our Constitution, we stand a chance of finding out who really is controlling this land, its army, judiciary, and with whom they are allied. Now, no one will talk honestly, even Arizona, supposedly being challenged by Obama over his failure to protect our Southern border.
Discussing rumors is fun, and would be fine, if my children's future and lives were not at great risk. We have a whole nation of citizens being denied the answer to who it is that is ruling them by people whose salaries we pay. This is not a republic. What is it - really?
Here is one of many possible scenarios for what Obama is really about: Obama's cousin, Odinga, for whom he campaigned and raised money while he was a freshman senator, was educated by the KGB. Obama's associates for most of his life identify with, some were probably supported by, the former Soviet Union, as was San Fran labor leader Harry Bridges, Nancy Pelosi's most influential political figure. What party could easily become an extension of the Politburo? Soros has always worked closely with the Russians and other Eastern Block countries. The Russians have their own problems with Islam. They could be seen, by some, as natural allies, since both geographies have large, and somewhat complimentary, stores of natural resources. Possibility? We need to learn the truth.
“The President must not only be a citizen but a natural born Citizen”. Sugarman v. Dougall, - Supreme Court 1973
The first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment:
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
Wong Kim Ark was affirmed a citizen.
The answer is not in the 14th Amendment or WKA.
Lets take this another step..the 11th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments pertain only to citizens.
A natural born Citizen is not in the above amendments..so where does it originate.
It has been my contention for several months natural born Citizens are the descendants of the original citizens created after the ratification of the Constitution.
The Founders established a Kind.
It has to be determined if the 14th amendment broke the Kind.
Yes the Founders were clever..when they used natural born Citizen.
The chance that evidence would be found to prove Clinton's Lewinski BJs was extremely small until the blue dress was forensically examined.
Obama is telling us every day, as is Abercrombie, that he is scared to death of what is in the HI vital records. Logic points to fear that ineligibility will be discovered and that can only mean a non-HI, non-US birth.
The entire congress, courts, US legal academic elite knew Obama had a UK subject father and chose to ignore that in an act of collective constitutional “jury nullification”. That jury nullification explicitly did not extend to ignoring a non-HI birth for Obama. That is what Obama fears.