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Wesley J. Smith: Futile Care: Teenager Forced Off Life Support Survives to Tell the Tale
First Things/Secondhand Smoke ^ | 3/10/11 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 03/12/2011 12:11:44 PM PST by wagglebee

This would have been a bigger story in the USA where patients still have the right to fight these things.  In New Zealand, doctors forced a badly injured teenager–Kimberly McNeill, center in the photo at left–off of life support.  But contrary to their certainty, she didn’t die.  From the story:

A teenage girl whose life support was switched off by a New Zealand hospital against her family’s wishes defied the odds to recover and returned home this week — walking and talking. Doctors forecasted that Kimberly McNeill, 18, would never recover from her severe injuries and 15 days after being transferred to Auckland City Hospital, authorities turned off the life support machine, the New Zealand Herald reported Sunday. Defying the odds, she pulled through and this week, two months after the wreck, which nearly claimed her life, returned to her parents’ home in Napier, on New Zealand’s North Island, to continue her rehabilitation, Hawkes Bay Today reported.

Note the short time given for the girl to recover! It reminds me of the Haleigh Poutre case in Massachusetts.  She’d be dead now if doctors had had their way in a timely fashion.  She was only saved because the death bureaucratic necessities gave her time to wake up.

This is a warning.  Doctors don’t know everything.  Hospitals are not always right.  Futile care theory not only violates patient autonomy, but it could abandon some–not many, but some–to death when they might otherwise have lived.  And don’t say, “Well, these girl lived, so what’s the harm?”  The harm is that was no thanks to the futilitarians.  Indeed, Kimberly’s life was surely put at greater jeopardy by the futile care imposition, not the other way around.



TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: futilecare; moralabsolutes; prolife
This is a warning. Doctors don’t know everything. Hospitals are not always right. Futile care theory not only violates patient autonomy, but it could abandon some–not many, but some–to death when they might otherwise have lived. And don’t say, “Well, these girl lived, so what’s the harm?” The harm is that was no thanks to the futilitarians.

Smith nails it here!

1 posted on 03/12/2011 12:11:52 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 03/12/2011 12:13:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 03/12/2011 12:14:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

God 1, Doctors 0

As it has been since the beginning of time.


4 posted on 03/12/2011 12:14:30 PM PST by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: wagglebee

I’m going to click all the links and find the details. This story has a happen conclusion; how many don’t?


5 posted on 03/12/2011 12:21:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wagglebee

From one link:

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/03/07/teen-returns-home-2-months-hospital-turns-life-support/print


McNeill said both he and Kimberly’s mother, Jackie Kiddle, had not been able to accept the doctors’ prognosis, and had drawn on specialist acupuncture and traditional Chinese medicine practitioners for support during the critical period when life support was withdrawn.

Both Kimberly’s parents are acupuncturists.


6 posted on 03/12/2011 12:23:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wagglebee

If the state is given the power to determine when critical care is withheld, those criteria will continue to widen. People will be evaluated based on cost control, rather than successful healing.

“Your 3 day flu just moved to day 4 and treating pneumonia is too expensive, so we’re through with you now.”

This little quote is from my college term paper, in which I was battling the instructor’s anti-life agenda. It cost me a letter grade, but tough!


7 posted on 03/12/2011 12:28:34 PM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry
You are exactly right.

While it is true that new medical techniques are expensive, AS THEY ARE USED, the cost drops in time. This is the case with ALL technology.

8 posted on 03/12/2011 12:33:16 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: little jeremiah

Love your tagline.

CS Lewis is great.


9 posted on 03/12/2011 12:42:42 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

Certainly many doctors think they are God but none of them are.


10 posted on 03/12/2011 12:45:39 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: wagglebee

Physicians are becoming killers rather than healers.

Once trust in the profession is eroded, they will never get it back.


11 posted on 03/12/2011 12:52:06 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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12 posted on 03/12/2011 1:18:21 PM PST by Golden Gate
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To: metmom

I just ordered some CS Lewis books (not your favorite ones...heh heh) but none were available. Gotta try again, maybe more of his books.


13 posted on 03/12/2011 1:31:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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There’s a picture of her here prior to the accident:

http://www.hawkesbaytoday.co.nz/local/news/critically-ill-teen-a-battler-says-teacher/3936574/


14 posted on 03/12/2011 1:49:48 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Thanks, I clicked every link but some didn’t have anything about her story.


15 posted on 03/12/2011 1:56:56 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

This is an important story. Life is precious.


16 posted on 03/12/2011 2:43:41 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Very important. There has to be ways to bring down the cost of some hospital care - I think there are way too many malpractice suits and attendant lawyers, for one.

Medical savings accounts. Less gov’t stuff like Medicare which has HUGE fraud problems. It’s a huge problem and intelligent non-socialist non-death cultists need to figure it out.

There used to be so many Catholic hospitals with nuns working them. What happened to them?


17 posted on 03/12/2011 2:50:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: trisham

Also I bet all kinds of volunteers would be more than willing to help in hospitals. But the red tape and insurance red tape is so onerous it’s almost impossible. Has to change. Volunteers can get trained for all kinds of helping tasks and services.


18 posted on 03/12/2011 3:03:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
Very important. There has to be ways to bring down the cost of some hospital care - I think there are way too many malpractice suits and attendant lawyers, for one.

Medical savings accounts. Less gov’t stuff like Medicare which has HUGE fraud problems. It’s a huge problem and intelligent non-socialist non-death cultists need to figure it out.

There used to be so many Catholic hospitals with nuns working them. What happened to them?

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There's much that needs to be done regarding all government programs, but some limitations might end up with unintended consequences. It needs to be done very carefully.

What happened to Catholic hospitals? A couple of things come immediately to mind. First is the payouts regarding sexual abuse by priests. That was a very costly blow to the Church. The second, I believe, had to do with abortion. Catholic hospitals refused to permit abortion, and chose to close rather than to submit to government controls which required that they do so.

19 posted on 03/12/2011 3:05:27 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: little jeremiah

I’ll bet they would, too.


20 posted on 03/12/2011 3:06:19 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Yes, I’ve read about those. Very horrible. So much of the problem is huge fedgov interference and mandates as well as pro-death influence.


21 posted on 03/12/2011 3:21:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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22 posted on 03/13/2011 11:32:40 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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