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To: bronxville

“Is she eligible to be president?”

Yes. That is why McCain, Palin, the RNC and every state GOP refused to challenge Obama based on his father. If you were in the US with the permission of the government, and your child was born here, she is a natural born citizen.

The issue was discussed at length by the Supreme Court long before Obama was born:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html

Many birthers try to add an extra requirement that you both be US citizens at the time of birth, but that wasn’t English law in the colonies, and it didn’t become US law after our independence. Natural born citizen was a legal phrase used in the Constitution by the Founders. It had an established meaning at the time the Constitution was written.


42 posted on 03/19/2011 7:45:28 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: Mr Rogers

Still got your head stuck up the horses arse so all you can do is obfuscate I see.


44 posted on 03/19/2011 8:33:50 AM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: Mr Rogers
Natural born citizen was a legal phrase used in the Constitution by the Founders. It had an established meaning at the time the Constitution was written.

That established meaning being someone who was born domestically to citizen parents .

You should stop lying about this.

45 posted on 03/19/2011 8:43:42 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Mr Rogers

The lies keep coming.

Everyone who could have address this was put on notice with Hillaries head on the stick during primaries.

The understanding is clear. Your parents (both) and especially your father must be citizens at the time of your birth.

jus sanguinis is the stronger of the two elements of natural born Citizens.

This was obvious in the first Immigration Act of 1790. The act indicated that those born of US parents (note it says parents (plural)) were considered as (note: considered as, not ARE) natural born Citizens (note: the precise match to the Article phrase).

In 1790 the law that jus sanguinis trumped jus soli in regards to being considered a natural born citizen.

This phrase was later removed. Maybe after some thought it was determined that the jus soli requirement was required.

There are those that say this is settled law (as here) and say it is settled indicating that almost anyone is eligible to be president. There are those that say it is completely unsettled law and that is stil needs to be defined.

Both are false.

The intent is clear - a strong check against foreign influence for the highest office of the land. Thus, only natural Citizens who were natural Citizens from birth (’natural born Citizens’) are eligible.

If your father is not a citizen of any country in the world then you are not a natural citizen. This is natural (”universal”) law.

To be a patriot you have be one loyal to ... your FATHERS land. This is the meaning of patriot.

There are active attempt to scrub the intent and meaning of our laws from the web and from legal rulings. Leo Donofrio captures this well.

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/irli-got-some-splainin-to-do/


46 posted on 03/19/2011 8:45:12 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Mr Rogers

The child of an alien, if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural born child of a citizen. obama was the child of an alien father,and if he was born in Hawaii is a citizen, but as quoted in WONG KIM Ark is not a Natural Born citizen. read Wong KIm Ark before posting information concerning it.


47 posted on 03/19/2011 8:48:52 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: Mr Rogers; bronxville
Yes. That is why McCain, Palin, the RNC and every state GOP refused to challenge Obama based on his father.

Liar, liar, pants on fire, that has never been challenged because of the dreaded RACE CARD, ms. Fifth Column, and just ask Judge Clarence Thomas. You do know what it means to have Knee Pads on, don't you???

The issue has been obscured by the irrelevant birth certificate, including your misleading postings!!!

83 posted on 03/21/2011 6:09:03 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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