Posted on 03/28/2011 10:04:32 AM PDT by Kaslin
60 witnesses at the coroner’s inquest don’t see it your way,,so i don’t know if i would say thats the only “undisputed” fact. Thats like saying that 9/11 is disputed,, after all, the truthers think Bush did it.
You are attempting at critical thought. All DR is doing is regurgitating the PD's court case.
The fact is due to deficiencies in tactics and training the police accidentally killed an innocent man and, like any bureaucracy will do lacking adequate oversight, sought to minimize the resulting consequences.
IMO its simply the law enforcement equivalent of the kind of behavior we increasingly see in every other department of nat'l and local government today.
I got it here. Presented as testimony given by an autopsy doctor at the inquest, in public. She also stated that he had likely built up a tolerance, leading to the overdose. Lethal doses of Xanax and morphine on board, also alderall. I don’t have a transcript of the inquest.
All your preconceived ideas aside for a moment, it does look compelling that there was an egregious miscarriage of justice in thes case. The truth has yet to be fully revealed.
And what some here call "anti-police" is in reality "anti-police abuse". There is a big difference.
For instance: You and I are not allowed to murder people. The officers in this story WERE in fact allowed to do just that. Many folks on FR have a problem with that, myself included.
Bet she was lying too, But she said he had 5 times the level of what is considered to be a lethal dose of morphine on board.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/sep/22/testimony-focuses-erik-scotts-use-prescription-dru/
More detail. But don’t let facts get in the way of a good story. Im sure the Doctor was excited to throw away medical school, her license, and future over some cop she didn’t know. Face facts,,, it seems all you can do it say he was great, accuse everyone of a massive conspiracy, and call people names.
Refute the doctors testimony. Refute the costco desk clerk’s testimony. She saw him remove the gun, and point it straight at the cop. (in the felt clip-on holster,,,where it could NEVER be fired)
No, it doesn't look compelling. You're apparently taking the word of a blogger who is trying to sell you something.
I THINK the failure of the metro police dept to honor the investigation and subpoenas shows they have everything to hide.
And MY line of thinking is based on the facts.........
I'm sure you'll be open to the outcome of that process won't you?
Here are some important facts:
1 - The cops confronted Scott in a crowd, although he was NOT acting erratically. How do I know? Because Mosher was looking for an erratic gunman, and he let Scott walk past him with no idea that Scott was the psycho. This was 6 second, IIRC, before they shot Scott. If Scott was the weirdo you suggest, why were Las Vegas’s finest unable to detect him 6 seconds prior to shooting?
2 - From the first word spoken by a cop to the first shot was, according to the DA, TWO SECONDS! So less than two seconds after Mosher started saying his first word, Mosher started pulling the trigger. Just how was Scott supposed to do ANYTHING in under TWO SECONDS?
Darn right he didn’t drop to the ground. It wasn’t physically possible to do so between the end of the first sentence spoken and the time Mosher opened fire.
Dude, that is murder. Scott did NOT have a gun in his hand. It was found holstered, and it would not have been possible to fire the gun without first removing it from the holster. Scott would probably have needed to rack the slide, or at least draw, take off the safety, pull the hammer back, and then fire.
He had roughly one third the time it takes to read the sentence above. Less than 2 seconds from first spoken word to bullet on the way.
That isn’t something some cop hater claims. That is what the DA says happened. And that is murder. Not manslaughter, but murder by a trigger happy cop.
Yep, you need those unions to coordinate a coverup.
Pills do not matter. He committed no hostile act that would justify the cops shooting him. He didn’t have time to do so. 6 seconds from “I see nothing unusual’ to shots on the way. Two seconds from first spoken word to Scott to trigger pulled. Less than a second from the end of the first sentence to trigger pulled.
My suspicion is that Mosher had his finger on the trigger and pulled it accidentally. Glocks don’t require much pressure to fire (5 lbs, typically). Then the other cops joined in. And Mosher then claimed Scott was pulling his gun - something he didn’t have time to do - to cover up his error.
I believe Mosher's first shot, delivered in two seconds and as he was bringing his weapon up, hit the holstered weapon which was on Scott's thigh at the time.
If it was in the process of being drawn I would expect it would be somewhere other than on his thigh.
Not sure why you think it would be worthless,,but anyway, im more interested in the testimony of the terrified Costco employees, the numerous bystanders, the medical examiner, and of two other doctors. (one of whom testified that he dropped him as a patient when he caught him doubling the prescribed doses)
I cannot understand why this doped up guy is such a hero to some. Ok, he was awesome and was a westpoint football player in the early 90s. And almost 20 years later,, he winds up as an extremely doped up for pain, roid-using former athlete, claiming he was a “Green Beret” who saw too much. (although he didn’t go to war). he was once an example,, and it appears he went downhill hard over the years.
It’s very very sad to see high achievers implode,, but it happens every day. Im just glad no innocent bystanders were hurt, and the cops were able to go home to their loved ones.
TWO seconds. Less than one second from the end of the first sentence spoken to trigger pulled.
SIX SECONDS from when Mosher didn’t see anything unusual about Scott until he fired his gun at Scott.
I hope you are, as well.
That is medically impossible. I just checked with my friend who is a Board Certified Anesthesiologist. No human being could even move with that level of morphine in their system.
According to the Costco counter worker, he drew, and pointed the gun directly at the cop.
How did those cops get the nice lady working the Costco counter to say that he pointed that gun straight at the officer? And why was your hero carrying a gun when he was as stoned as the Medical Examiner said he was?
He’s not exactly a CCW posterboy here.
BTW when a witness delivers their testimony in an orange jumpsuit it does tend to effect the jury's impression of the worth of his testimony.
That is medically impossible. I just checked with my friend who is a Board Certified Anesthesiologist. No human being could even move with that level of morphine in their system.
Then you should have your friend contact the court ASAP. Because the medical examiner testified that his morphine level was about 1800 when lethal would be around 350. (the exact numbers are on the chart in the photograph, accompanying the newspaper story,, with the Doctor pointing at it). It’s an actual photo of her testifying,,, you should be able to get her license pulled IF you are correct. IF,,,
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