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Trump sees bankruptcy as a competitive advantage
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Posted on 04/10/2011 8:43:48 PM PDT by mnehring

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To: mnehring

Right now it’s Trump and Romney at the top.

I will NOT vote for Romney

So, at this point we have a choice between one of those two or Obama.

(we got plenty of time - things can change - but other candidates do not magically appear simply by bashing other GOP candidates without having an alternative to look at)

So, who’s your alternative that knows business as these two guys and can win?


61 posted on 04/10/2011 10:04:02 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: mnehring

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Relax. He’s not running.
He’s using it as a platform to go after the muzzie.
Let him.

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The facts re; BC fraud, Obama not natural born citizen:

http://www.theobamafile.com/SearchResults.htm?cx=partner-pub-5800558700131855%3Axe3q1mlexqs&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=fake+birth+certificate&sa=Search#1115

http://www.theobamafile.com/SearchResults.htm?cx=partner-pub-5800558700131855%3Axe3q1mlexqs&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=natural+born+citizen&sa=Search#1115

How to reach Trump:

http://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump

http://twitter.com/#!/realDonaldTrump

http://shouldtrumprun.com/
http://shouldtrumprun.com/your-voices/
http://shouldtrumprun.com/contact-us/

Herman Cain

info@hermancain.com

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62 posted on 04/10/2011 10:04:53 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: tsowellfan

Policy wise, I like Cain but I think the hill of recognition is too steep to climb. I personally think we haven’t seen who will be the leader even step forward yet and we may be all surprised. I don’t think it will be anyone we are seeing now. Who? Not sure, just my gut feeling and some buzz I’m hearing from others. The Conservative side of the house is eerie in terms of few actually putting pen to paper but they are talking to each other.


63 posted on 04/10/2011 10:09:36 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: American Constitutionalist

Then there’s this, from David Plouffe: “There is zero chance that Donald Trump would ever be hired by the American people to do this job,” says Plouffe. “I saw Donald Trump kind of rising in some polls and given his behavior and spectacle the last couple of weeks, I hope he keeps on rising.”

And I hope this infuriates Trump into running! He seems like the type who wants to prove his critics wrong.


64 posted on 04/10/2011 10:11:48 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: RockinRight
Does a shooting war sound good? One we wouldn’t have the funding to fight?

(Re: WWRCD - What Would Red China Do?)

Well, just in case, I'd keep the electronics warm in our Minuteman III missiles and B-52's. Maybe we would finish what MacArthur wanted to do.
65 posted on 04/10/2011 10:16:43 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Reagan Man

I rather doubt that any N.Y.C. developers are over burdened with ethics. Trump is....flamboyant? and who is really going to take him seriously?


66 posted on 04/10/2011 10:18:56 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: tsowellfan
I don't think you realize what drives this forum. Let me make this perfectly clear. FR does not support liberalism or liberal candidates. Its conservatism and conservative candidates that FReepers support, promote and vote for.

Frankly, conservatives do not trust Romney or Trump because of their last minute political conversions and flip-flops on key issues. Some of those being high profile social issues.

Not only did Romney push an earlier version of Obamacare, aka. Romneycare. Trump supported universal health care and a single payer health system. I seriously doubt either Romney or Trump could win the nomination. And I'm convinced neither one could beat Obama. One thing is certain, neither Romney or Trump will ever get my vote in the primary or the general.

67 posted on 04/10/2011 10:18:58 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: screaminsunshine
I agree. The USA should declare it and start over.

I agree, there is no way on God's green Earth we will pay it off. It is like a test plane out of control, there is no way except to bail out. We are in debt so many trillions of dollars, if every dollar was a mile, you'd be going astronomical distances in light years. BTW, I'd keep our B-52's and missiles on standby in case if we get bullied.
68 posted on 04/10/2011 10:21:25 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: mnehring

Bankruptcy of the government is already well underway. Trump to my knowledge was not the one that created it. Btw, I not a Trump for pres fan.


69 posted on 04/10/2011 10:23:53 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: mnehring
I personally think we haven’t seen who will be the leader even step forward yet

Let's hope you're right

and we may be all surprised.

Let's hope so

Right Now it's:

1) Romney

2) Trump

3) Huckabee

4) Gingrich

5) Sarah Palin

And in that order.

70 posted on 04/10/2011 10:24:52 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: mnehring

The best approach to Trump is to focus on and highlight the attributes of better candidates...whereever they are. I dont see any other than maybe Bachman that are worthwhile. Huckabee is unelectable. So is Haley Barbour. Romney wont get anything done. Trump would be a joke candidate. Who is out there that can actually solve the debt problem?


71 posted on 04/10/2011 10:30:49 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: mnehring

Saw post 27. Thanks.


72 posted on 04/10/2011 10:32:08 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Reagan Man
I don't think you realize what drives this forum. Let me make this perfectly clear. FR does not support liberalism or liberal candidates. Its conservatism and conservative candidates that FReepers support, promote and vote for.

I know exactly what drives this forum. I've been a Freeper since 2000.

One thing is certain, neither Romney or Trump will ever get my vote in the primary or the general.

Ironically, I had to switch usernames for having that same point of view you just expressed once McCain had won the nomination.

So, I know where you're coming from, but no way will I ever allow my non-vote to put a socialist back in the White House.

73 posted on 04/10/2011 10:34:54 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan
>>>>>>I know exactly what drives this forum. I've been a Freeper since 2000.

Really. Then you should know that social issues are a big driving force behind this forum. A force rooted in the Constitution. And what was your original handle again, before you switched?

In my book, anyone dumb enough to vote for Trump or another liberal, is no conservative.

74 posted on 04/10/2011 11:07:20 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: achilles2000; mnehring; Admin Moderator
Well that is exactly correct. Trump is in business to make money. He is not a 'public servant.'
He plays for big stakes and he knows that along with that there are the occasional loss. But with the right tools many of those can be turned to advantage.

Hell, he just plopped down US$6.2 million for a failing Virginia (Yes...Virginia) winery. He admits he doesn't know diddily about that business, but he also knows that if he can get the right people with the right talents and experience, he can either turn it around or bring it to a level to sell it for a reasonable profit. In one way or another,i.e. land, equipment, buildings (the buy consists of a major house located right next to Monticello).

Now how this expertise would translate into suitability for the position of POTUS...I'm not too sure at this point in time. But as one historian noted..."The business of America is business"...I think thats well worth consideration.

Posting an article from almost 7 yrs ago is not always relevant to what is happening today. At least note the history at the get go. How has Trump fared over the intervening 7 years?
How has he reacted since the events mentioned in the article? A LOT has gone down since then. Of particular note is his walk-out in his dealing with the Chinese.

As to Trumps being:
He is pro-gun control, pro-progressive taxation, pro-abortion, pro-socialized medicine.. and so on..

I would very much like to see a discussion of those items. That would be both timely and relevant to the events transpiring currently.

75 posted on 04/10/2011 11:51:06 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: RockinRight

ping to #75.

Thanks.


76 posted on 04/10/2011 11:58:17 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: Reagan Man
Then you should know that social issues are a big driving force behind this forum

I certainly do and they are social issues which I support.

I think you should read my posts before you comment and spew accusations.

My point was for us not to risk all on the Presidency when we should focus on winning the 20+ democrat seats in play in the Senate in 2012 and fill those seats with conservatives and increase our majority in Congress with even more conservatives.

My comments were referring to the general American population and I repeat democrats (the ones that will not put their party above America), Independents and republicans will most likely be voting with their wallet with economic issues above all other issues during the 2012 Presidential election (if the economy stays the same as it is now or worsens).

You may not like that but that is where we are at.

It would be nice to see a conservative come out who has economic strengths that the Americans will vote for. Conservative issues win everytime but with the economic situation we have a lot of scared voters who are desperate and will be voting for issues such as:

1) drilling our own

2) lower taxes

3) smaller government

4) less government interference

but they are going to need to trust that this candidate has a lot of knowledge in business and economics.

So far, I do not see that conservative candidate.

That's why I say just in case that candidate does not appear for us we must focus our conservative aims by electing Senators and Congressman who are conservative.

If Obama has been so far to the left during his first term, can you imagine what's in store for us in his last term?

Your accusations that I am somehow anything less than conservative are laughable as I had built a website of links and videos for 12 years now which shows otherwise so I'm really not worried about anybody trying to define where I stand politically.

http://www.cafenetamerica.com

77 posted on 04/11/2011 12:07:22 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: mnehring

It absolutely has a relevant date.

You don’t like Trump, that’s okay. I’m not really down with him at this point and think his whole posturing is just part of his PR schtick.

But you post an article from 2004 and don’t bother to tell us it’s not current events but history.

The site you posted from has right at the top “This story was originally published on August 11, 2004”.

You think that was okay? It’s right? The time has relevancy to the story.

BTW, the link you gave is from 2007 and a reprint of the original.


78 posted on 04/11/2011 2:14:20 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Tainan; mnehring

+1 bigtime!

I haven’t file for BK every and hope I never do. But Tainan and Trump are right. BK is a tool that allows parties to gain or retain some value from a borrower.

It sucks when it happens and I hate when my customers go BK.

But I am way happier with a BK that is reorg than a BK that is bust.

When they reorg I get to set the terms of continued service.


79 posted on 04/11/2011 2:17:54 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Tainan

At this point, I would put Trump’s candidacy in the category of “entertainment”. He is certainly making the MSM squirm over the birther issue.


80 posted on 04/11/2011 5:39:10 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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