Posted on 04/30/2011 9:44:49 AM PDT by patlin
Yes, that is the theory I was alluding to.
Now, these guys are leaping headlong into conspiracy theory.
They buy into disproven items like the name of the hospital.
Does the Washington Times know it's being dragged into this?
I have been looking every where for someone who can take a layer and break the layer itself apart. Can you do this, or do you know someone who can?
I believe “X” marks the spot. See my post for explanation:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2712232/posts?page=49#49
Please let me know, pro or con, what you think. Thanks!
One other possibility: The HI officials say it was a photocopy of a page from a book on safety paper. What if the photocopier was a black and white one? That could explain the lack of chromatic aberration.Yes, that was also my assumption.
I’m pinging cartan in case he (she?) has anything else to add on this.He :-) I don’t think examining this PDF any further is going to get us anywhere. People have been analyzing it for days now, and as far as I can see, the issues that have been found have perfectly innocuous explanations. There is certainly nothing in this PDF that makes it an obvious forgery, unlike the Dan Rather / Mary Mapes memos. Even if anybody is going to uncover something that cannot be explained at all except through photo-shopping, it is going to be so subtle that hardly anybody is going to be convinced by it. Do you remember how hard it was even with the Killian memos? Those were obvious forgeries; obvious to everybody with the slightest knowledge of typesetting at least, or anybody who ever used a typewriter, and it was still hard to convince those who didn’t want to be convinced. (Liberals seriously suggested some guy in an army office 40 years ago wrote memos to himself on special typesetting equipment that was hideously expensive, was absolutely unknown at the time, and could write in a proportional font typeface identical to that of Microsoft Word. Nuts!) I think Dan Rather and Mary Mapes still believe the documents were real. So, I think this isn’t going to get anywhere.
Regardless, Stanley is a kook. That’s the point.
WOOPS! I meant exciting! Silly me!
Exactly. Once I read the time travel pre-determination of Presidents by the CIA, I just clicked away from the article.
I don’t think examining this PDF any further is going to get us anywhere.
I'm pretty much to that point also, unless some new information on their process comes out.
If the "natural born citizen" aspect has solid merit legally (some say yes, some say no), that's a content issue. Debunking Obama's phony campaign biography and revealing his true story has use. Running against Obama on what he has done and will do in office has the most value.
Let me repeat: by focusing on the stupid birth certificate instead of the Constitutional question, Obama has p*wned everyone who questions his Constitutional eligibility to serve as POTUS. Gotta give him credit.
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DRIVER'S LICENSE: Just wondering: Could Obama walk into a local office of the Department of Motor Vehicles in any state with the copy of his long form birth certificate that he displayed at the press conference on April 27, 1961 and obtain a new drivers' license?
There seems to be nothing new here except for the shocking revelation that Barack Obama was long ago identified as a future US President and informed of that fact as a young man, through the secret CIA/DARPA Quantum Time Travel Program.
Damn. Who knew?
Besides the CIA and Obama, I mean.
The INS documents obtained by an Arizona reporter under the FOIA include a 1961 memo that notes in passing that BO Sr's American wife gave birth to a child in Honolulu on August 4, 1961. This contemperaneous document is powerful corroborating evidence that the birth took place as claimed. Indeed, I think it would be sufficient evidence even if the original birth certificate had been lost.
where did the info of Obies birht come from? Obie Sr? is the memo real or fake?
Please< oh, please RUN WITH THAT...only go a few characters down to the “X” that should be an “H” in the word “the” before the word “record” and you will find the signature of the computer person who doctored the records to clear HDOH. “X” marks the spot, “X” is used for people who cannot write their name, and this “X” is telling us where the buried treasure is. See my post here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2712232/posts?page=49#49
It is NOT a LONG FORM BC - it is yet another COLB - as it says across the top: “Certificate of Live Birth” NOT a BC but a COLB.
such a certificate can be registered with the state and is usually the one used for a child born IN ANOTHER state or country. It merely attest to a live birth of a child by parents who had previously live in the state for a year.
A long form would give the attending physician LISTED as “attending” and the time of birth, weight and length, and the RACE of father would not be “African” - Africa is a CONTINENT where people of all colors are born, it is not a race. (Little slip ups when first we practice to deceive?)
There's a story line, from some time ago, that mommy was in Kenya about ready to pop and tried to fly back to Hawaii - but airlines didn't allow very pregnant ladies to fly back then.
She reportedly gave birth in the next couple days and bo arded a plane for Hawaii about 3 days later - with infant.
And then there's this document, that's been around and ignored for a couple years and does look on the up and up - and lists race as NEGRO - African...mother as Caucasian. Those were the the designations at that time.
Purportedly, grammama registered the birth in Hawaii. (Remember too, that it the time, no one was worrying about when he grew up to run for president, they were merely having his existence recorded.
Now look at the very last line on this document. Not just the wording, but the numbers designating what? Well, see the second link. (This seems to be the most authentic document so far. Merely a registration for a COLB.
Forgeries or not, we STILL have NOT seen a long from BC! Please understand the difference and stop perpetrating the myth that he has now released his long form birth cert. he has NOT!
? genuine registration form for COLB?
the meaning of the “[§338-17.8] “ on the bottom line?
[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm
In addition, this latest from the bamba crew ‘released’ is different from the one they released last year. Why is no one questioning why 2 versions? And in what may be the ultimate FU America, it appears they couldn't resist a little ‘hidden’ message at the very end of the new document - signed by with initials that read out as Ukulele. That would be just about what an uber narcissist would do.
Oh, a freeper last night made the claim that because the type on this document is 'courier' - that meant computer font, that the courier font wasn't in existence in 1961. As I made my living in the newspaper business (retired) I can tell you - and you can verify - that it was originally designed by Howard Kettler for IBM, in the 1950s and becasue they didn't pattent it, it quickly became the font of choice for most typewriters...some years before bamba was born. Stay informed.
Even if he is not legally able to be president, I don’t think he can be frog marched out of the white house. The only way would be impeachment and no one wants to go there. The senate would not remove him even if the house impeached him. Its still democrats in charge at the senate..
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