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Judgment Day May 21 [Why the Bible Never speaks of the End of the Physical Universe]
Prophecy Questions blog ^ | May 18, 2011 | Prophecy Questioner

Posted on 05/18/2011 2:52:51 PM PDT by grumpa

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To: editor-surveyor; nonsporting
>> No one has yet sat in the “temple of God” and claimed that he was “God.” <<

The study of history can prevent you from making statements like that above: Antiochus Epiphanes, who gave himself the title, Theos Epiphanes, meaning “the manifest God," believing himself to be an incarnation of Zeus, issued coins of himself with the inscription, “King Antiochus. God Manifest, Bearing Victory," and later erected a statue of Zeus in the Jewish temple, offered the burnt offering of the pigs, and commanded that the sacrifices be repeated each 25th of the month in celebration of his birthday. Zeus was identified as Ba'al Shamen, lord of heaven. In Hebrew, the name was Ba'al Shamayim and was identified as Yahweh, Lord of heaven. So when Antiochus identified himself Zeus, aka Ba'al Shamen, he was claiming to be Yahweh, Ba'al Shamayim, the Lord of heaven, having sacrifices offered to himself in the temple of Yahweh.
41 posted on 05/19/2011 10:34:00 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

I hope you do understand that I was quoting another post?


42 posted on 05/19/2011 11:01:29 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: grumpa
[Why the Bible Never speaks of the End of the Physical Universe]

4And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
--Isaiah 34:4

7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2 Peter 3:7, 10-13

1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Revelation 21:1

The heavens and the earth pretty much covers the "physical universe" and Isaiah, 2 Peter, and Revelation are in the Bible.
43 posted on 05/19/2011 11:09:44 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: editor-surveyor
>> No one has yet sat in the “temple of God” and claimed that he was “God.” << popes have been doing exactly that for about 1500 years.

So, you are equating Rome with the "temple of God"?

I thought the only structure so named was built by Solomon in Jerusalem, destroyed by the Babylonians in 586BC, restored 70 years later and then finally destroyed by Romans in 70AD. Or course, Christians are also called the "temple of God" (1 Corinthians 3:16), but it is hard to understand 2 Thess 2:4 as referring to anything but a physical temple.

A reconstructed temple in spiritual Sodom (earthly Jerusalem where our Lord was crucified--Rev 11:8) appears to be a prerequisite.

The Pope calls himself the "vicar of Christ" and I am disturbed by the implications of this claim. "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." (1 Tim 2:5). However, the "first beast" has not yet received the "[deadly] wound by a sword" and been healed by the second beast (Rev 13:11-14). These events, which must precede the "day of the Lord" (Rev 14:14-16), have not yet happened.

Partial Chronology of the Tribulation

Pictoral Chart of the Book of Revelation

We do not know the day or the hour of Christ's return, but we are not ignorant of the detailed events which must precede it and, therefore, will not be deceived, as many will be, by the arrival of the false Christ who has been permitted to make war on the children of God.

None of these events have happened. Christ's return is not imminent (May 21st).

44 posted on 05/19/2011 11:43:02 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: SkyPilot
Has anyone ever listened to Harold Camping?
He is an egoistical, prideful, narcissistic maniac.

Er, excuse me...

Mr. Camping uses this phrase whenever he wants to cut off a caller and spend twenty minutes answering a one minute question.

A long time ago I heard that it is never wise to argue with someone who buys ink by the barrel. Same argument for those who own a radio station and control the air time.

My hope? On May 22nd, the FCC moves to shut down Family Radio once and for all. And for those who want to chime in and talk about the beautiful music, I suggest you study the phrase "bait and switch." It's the same reason I don't listen to the Mormon Fish and Tackle Choir.

45 posted on 05/19/2011 11:43:14 AM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (I will always remember exactly where I was when Obama made his NCAA picks.)
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To: nonsporting

Every “temple” from now to the return of the Lord will be a false temple, constructed to please the kabbalists, not God.

This definitely includes “St. Peter’s” basilica.


46 posted on 05/19/2011 12:04:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: The Citizen Soldier

You mean the Morman Block and Tackle Choir?


47 posted on 05/19/2011 12:06:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: editor-surveyor
"You mean the Morman Block and Tackle Choir?"

Yes, that band also. Of course, Fish and Tackle worked better with my "bait and switch" comment, but I appreciate your input.

48 posted on 05/19/2011 1:15:29 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (I will always remember exactly where I was when Obama made his NCAA picks.)
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To: editor-surveyor
"You mean the Morman Block and Tackle Choir?"

Yes, that band also. Of course, Fish and Tackle worked better with my "bait and switch" comment, but I appreciate your input.

49 posted on 05/19/2011 1:16:50 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (I will always remember exactly where I was when Obama made his NCAA picks.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Every “temple” from now to the return of the Lord will be a false temple, constructed to please the kabbalists, not God. This definitely includes “St. Peter’s” basilica.

Which of these will be known by the phrase "the temple of God"? (2 Thess 2:4 says "the" temple of God, not "a" temple of God.) Historically there has been one and only location for a structure known as "the" temple of God.

50 posted on 05/19/2011 1:50:14 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: editor-surveyor
I hope you do understand that I was quoting another post?

Sure, that's why included you with the one you were quoting.
51 posted on 05/19/2011 2:00:22 PM PDT by aruanan
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