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New to Diabetes. Would like to hear experiences.
Vanity | 5/21/2011 | Eqandybuzz

Posted on 05/21/2011 6:36:59 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz

Sorry to bother everyone with vanity post. Two weeks ago I started on Metformin, a drug used to control sugar. My doctor told me I am close to having diabetes, if I do not already have it.

I wanted to hear about your experiences when you found out you had diabetes, the symptoms and how you live your life now. (diet, exercise, drinking)

I appreciate your input. I have no clue what to do, what to eat,when to eat. Going to endocrinologist next week.

Thanks


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KEYWORDS: diabetes; endocrine; insulin; sugar
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1 posted on 05/21/2011 6:37:04 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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Eat meats, fish, green vegetables, and nuts. Don't eat root crop veggies, bread, grains, sugars, starches, or drink soda or alchohol. Exercise twice a day. If you do that with type II diabetes, your blood sugars will be normal.

Researchers took 100 adults with type II diabetes and made them live with Australian aboriginals. They ate what they ate, slept when they slept, did the same activities their hosts did. Within six months they were all no longer diabetic.

3 posted on 05/21/2011 6:44:57 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I've been having good results with sitagliptin. Just have to stay committed to watching with I eat, and exercise...
4 posted on 05/21/2011 6:46:13 AM PDT by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The internet is loaded with information on diabetes(I am assuming you have type two, if you are in fact diabetic). Do a search on diabetes, treatment, diet and so forth and you will find everything you need to know.


5 posted on 05/21/2011 6:49:00 AM PDT by calex59
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes over 20 years ago. If your doctor says you almost have Type 2 diabetes and recommends medication...you need to do 2 things:

1. Start a serious regimen of regular excercise. Break a sweat 3 times a week. Speak with a dietician and get your food intake straight. Then get off the meds. The meds do not fix anything. They keep things in check and without proper diet and excercise, it WILL escalate into more meds and more meds as time goes on. Belive me. Been there...done that.

2. Find a new doctor. One who specializes in diabetes. The first word out of a doctor's mouth to someone who almost has Type 2 diabetes should not have been metformin.

Good luck.

6 posted on 05/21/2011 6:59:36 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A "Moderate Muslim"? Nothing more than a Muslim Extremist who has run out of ammo.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Get a good book on how to eat like a diabetic. Everyone should anyway, it's very healthy. Also any kind of exercises will help regulate your sugar. You can also eat certain things that help regulate your sugar too. Eating walnuts through out the day helps. I've heard cinnamon helps, I'm sure there are countless things that do. Also taking chromium helps, high fiber foods. Small frequent meals, instead of 3 meals a day, eat 4-6 a day.

If you start controlling your sugar now, it'll help keep from getting full blown diabetes or at least put it off for awhile.

7 posted on 05/21/2011 7:04:54 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

1. Get your doc to prescribe a Diabetes Test Kit and strips. Check with your insurer, they’ll generally GIVE you one of their preferred models for free. Test every few days before breakfast. SHOULD consistently be under 120.

2. As mentioned, high-protein lo-carb diet.

3. If your urinary output suddenly spikes, combined with an increase in thirst, see a doctor NOW (and test daily: in such case, you’ve likely crossed the line and joined the rest of us wearers of the “Scarlet D”. . .


8 posted on 05/21/2011 7:07:01 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: blackdog

Figures, we aren’t made to sit in front of TV or the PC 12 hours a day and eat McDonalds.


9 posted on 05/21/2011 7:17:59 AM PDT by mewykwistmas (Lost your job as a birther under Obama? Become a 'deather'! Where's Bin Laden's death certificate?)
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To: Young Werther

Do you know where I can get a prescription for that?


10 posted on 05/21/2011 7:18:52 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Celebrate 'Civility'")
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To: mewykwistmas
Pull weeds, ride a bike, split wood.

Things to do when you need things to do.

11 posted on 05/21/2011 7:23:12 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Definitely get a second opinion from an endocrinologist My gf was diagnosed “definitely, no questions” by her internist and a prescription was written based solely on ONE A1C result. Everything I had read said two definitive testings were required, regardless of whether fasting, sugary, or A1C testing.

She went and the endocrinologist agreed. She has also lost weight, a bit more careful about foods, yet gets little exercise . . . and worries alot less about diabetes. Without the second opinion, a much more qualified one, she would have been on meds and “diabetic for life”


12 posted on 05/21/2011 7:27:28 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Celebrate 'Civility'")
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Type 2 daubetes is completly curable and completly preventable.

The Type 2 Diabetes Breakthrough. Go here to see Dr. Frank Shallenberger’s website with a discussion of this and other books he wrote.

http://www.realcuresletter.com/products.aspx

13 posted on 05/21/2011 7:31:20 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Clarification: her endocrinologist agreed” meaning a second test was ordered and she was NOT diabetic. Still, she needs to watch it with diet/exercise and regular visits with blood testing. Needless to say, the internist is no longer her primary care doctor.


14 posted on 05/21/2011 7:34:41 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Celebrate 'Civility'")
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To: A_Former_Democrat

You need to speak to the MODERATOR!


15 posted on 05/21/2011 7:36:07 AM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Take control of your diet, exercise, and rest. Now.

If you eat low carbohydrates (aboriginal diet or Atkins-type diet) as discussed by many posters you can maintain your A1c in the proper range without medicine.

Get away from the meds. Take charge of your own health — the doctors will kneejerk to metformin and an increasing array of drugs. If you can control your blood sugar without the meds, you will live a better life.

Walnuts, cinnamon, niacin, Vitamin D!!!


16 posted on 05/21/2011 7:36:20 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Defund Elmo, TOTUS, and GOTUS)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

ping for later


17 posted on 05/21/2011 7:37:20 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: EQAndyBuzz

What my husband finally did was to cut out most carbs and exercise at least three times a week. When he was diagnosed, his doctor had him consult a nutritionist who put him on a low calorie, high carb diet. His sugar stayed the same and he gained 20 pounds in a year. Then he went on Atkins. His blood sugar returned to normal within a very short time.


18 posted on 05/21/2011 7:38:24 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: FatherofFive
It's not that simple. If you don't have the genes for it you'll never develop it. Not all folks with the genes develop Type II. Not all Type II is actually Type II. Some of it is more like a slow Type I that takes years to develop.

There are a gazillion diets and all sorts of "break throughs". Best advice is probably to try everything and ignore the American Diabetes Association's proposal that you eat lots of starchy foods (as a way to offset the craving for sugar I guess?).

Eat only low glycemic foods.

19 posted on 05/21/2011 7:40:25 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

makes sense!

My father in law was diagnosed with diabetes
he:

1. stopped all alcohol
2. stopped all processed sugars- 0 candy
3. increased veggies and pure juices.
4. increased excerise- mostly just kept busy

He dropped 40+ lbs! and does not have diabetes anymore


20 posted on 05/21/2011 7:40:47 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: EQAndyBuzz

You don’t say how old you are, or if you’re overweight. The most valuable I’ve seen above is that you can get over this. I didn’t know that until my internist told me I was no longer diabetic.

When I first learned that I had it, my first thought was, “I’ve sure blown some good genes.” A close friend and mentor on diabetes told me the day he learned he was diabetic, his second wife had just divorced him and he was so low he could dangle his legs off a cigarette paper.

I started exercising more regularly—exercise bike works well for burning sugar in your largest muscle groups.

I ate less beef - turkey sausage and ground turkey has worked well for me. Don ‘t even feel like I’m suffering, but losing weight steadily—Have lost 94 pounds in the last six years.

I took metphormin for four years. Haven’t taken a diabetes med for two years.

ONE CAVEAT: I lucked out that my blood sugar levels were extremely stable. I started out testing once a day, then once a week, and now I only get the A1C level twice a year.

Good luck to you.


21 posted on 05/21/2011 7:43:26 AM PDT by FNU LNU (Nothing runs like a Deere, nothing smells like a john)
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To: Salgak

If you test before eating breakfast it should be in the mid 80s and not over 100. This is what the endorinologist told my husband.


22 posted on 05/21/2011 7:47:39 AM PDT by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: Salgak

If you test before eating breakfast it should be in the mid 80s and not over 100. This is what the endorinologist told my husband.


23 posted on 05/21/2011 7:47:45 AM PDT by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Concur with the comment that exercise is as important as metformin. Take the classes that will inform you of diet requirements and provide you with guidance of how to change parts of your lifestyle.

Do the tests (blood sugar tests) when directed. Get a ‘feeling’ of how certain foods affect your tests and your sense of alertness and strength. Things get better and you won’t miss sugar. You will have to watch what you eat. There are foods that produce too much sugar as part of your body’s metabolism. Eat ‘junk’ and you will get negative results immediately.

Self discipline (food you eat, things you do, taking medicine as directed) has immediate and long term effects that you will easily see / feel. Your medical support (Doctor et. al.) will congratulate you as you progress.

Enjoy life! You can and will do it.


24 posted on 05/21/2011 7:49:02 AM PDT by Lurk-know-more
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To: EQAndyBuzz

There’s a doctor who offers a ton of information and natural treatments at www.stayhealthymd.com


25 posted on 05/21/2011 7:49:11 AM PDT by Don214
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I had this exact diagnosis about five years ago. The dr put me on metformin. Since I was always active, exercise was not a problem but I did three things and was off the drug in six months.

1. Stopped eating anything white. Sugar, potatoes, and rice in particular.
2. Not a fan of alcohol anyway, but stopped altogether.
3. Ate mostly salads for awhile and dropped 25 pounds. 180 to 155. Final weight turned out to be 160.

I check my blood sugar every once or twice a day to monitor the situation.


26 posted on 05/21/2011 7:49:13 AM PDT by waredbird
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To: OwenKellogg

Look for the slow release Niacin...or the Niacin flush will drive you crazy. I’d suggest taking it at night when it is less apt to be noticed.

E is the master Vit of the body, and Zinc is the master mineral. Or so Earl Mendell maintains. 10 mg of zinc and your taste buds and sense of smell will drastically improve.

E can be toxic if taken in to large of doses, lay off it at least once a week.

Make sure you get adequate B vits.

Portion control is important too. A good diabetic nutritionist can explain the process.

READ labels on processed foods.


27 posted on 05/21/2011 7:52:06 AM PDT by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

bttt


28 posted on 05/21/2011 7:57:21 AM PDT by aberaussie
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To: EQAndyBuzz

bttt


29 posted on 05/21/2011 7:59:10 AM PDT by A Cyrenian
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To: EQAndyBuzz

It’s likely that at some point your blood sugar will get
TOO LOW, and you need to recognize this situation. I notice mine when it gets to about 70 or below. I start to get a little light headed or dizzy and my hearing starts to diminish. If this happens, check your blood sugar and if it’s too low drink some orange juice or eat a piece of candy and then eat some carbs.

Exercise is good, of course, but beware that too much exercise on too little food can cause your blood sugar to get too low.


30 posted on 05/21/2011 7:59:59 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: blackdog

Good advice. I did it, they put me on Metformin and then Junevia....then one day, after losing weight and eating right, I became hypoglycemic with numbers in the 40s, I went off all meds and have been good ever since. No meds today. YEAH! It can be done.


31 posted on 05/21/2011 8:02:13 AM PDT by tioga (2012 - the year Obama gets slapped down....coming soon.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Please google "paleo diet" or "caveman diet" and pay most attention to Loren Cordain's site (these are similar to Atkins, except no dairy). The closer you can stay to one of these, the quicker your diabetes (or pre-diabetes) will disappear and you can toss out your metformin (which, overall, is an excellent drug for diabetes, but no drug is best--and this from PHARMboy).

Good luck.

32 posted on 05/21/2011 8:02:15 AM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

While you may not have “full blown” type II diabetes, it is very possible that you have insulin resistance. Glucaphage can help with that, but the advice you have gotten from other Freepers to immediately gain control over your lifestyle with proper diet and exercise is exactly what is needed, imho. You will like yourself very well if you do.

I got a similar diagnosis as yours several years ago and subsequently have lost (after a couple of tries) and kept off 90 pounds for 2 years.

I recommend you look into the Take Off Pounds Sensibly(R) group. They are a non-profit lifestyle support group. Dues are quite nominal when compared to for-profit weight loss organizations. They do not tell you what to eat, nor sell anything like some weight loss groups do. They emphasize getting your doctor on board for your weight loss program, and the TOPS members support each other with encouragement and incentives and education about lifestyle. I credit them for helping me stay focused while pursuing my new lifestyle.

I have a friend who has said, “if you are not overweight, you should probably consider gaining a few pounds so you can join! This is a WONDERFUL group people!” LOL! I concur!

I have my life back, and I’m so very grateful.

http://www.tops.org/default.aspx


33 posted on 05/21/2011 8:08:30 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Have your doctor refer you to a Certified Diabetes Educator - preferably one that also has a Dietician working with them in their practice - and get your treatment program crafted specifically for you.

What works for all the arm-chair experts here may be fine for them, but not for you.


34 posted on 05/21/2011 8:08:34 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: libertylover

I suffered digestive upsets for a few years taking “the gold standard” metformin. Finally said no more. Then Avandia and nearly had heart failure from this terrible drug now pulled from the market. After a couple more new “wonder” drugs that gave me nasty side effects, I said “STOP!” to my doctor.

For the past couple of years my Type II diabetes is managed well with just one glyburide 5 mg. tablet a day and NO side effects. My A1C hovers around the 6.5 range which is very acceptable.

But here is the real kicker: My wise doctor ordered a Vitamin D 25 Hydroxy test and discovered my level was an extremely low 10. After faithfully taking 2 Hectorol tablets a day for a couple months, it is now up to 26 and will hopefully be in the 32 normal range with next test.

The rise in my vitamin D also lowered my triglycerides, cholesterol and glucose! A major discovery. Do your Vitamin D hydroxy 25 checked with a blood test. Can be vital to your overall health. Good luck everyone.


35 posted on 05/21/2011 8:12:47 AM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I’m on metformin for a couple of years now. My glucose which I test every morning was trending high and although I was not clinically a diabetic it was deemed desirable to be on this oral med. Not a big deal. The goal is to eat properly and there is a ton of information on what to eat available. Exercise regularly and lose weight. Otherwise live a normal life. It’s not necessarily a big deal and stop worrying. BTW, there is such a thing as the “dawn phenomenon” when you will test high. That does not necessarily mean you have diabetes. Test it two hours after eating and see if you are in the danger range. You want to stay on top of this because of cardio and vision problems. Eat right, exercise, lose weight and monitor your glucose.


36 posted on 05/21/2011 8:14:03 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: Young Werther

Looks like he/she was not amused

Or wanted her all to himself


37 posted on 05/21/2011 8:17:44 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Celebrate 'Civility'")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

How old are you and what is your height and weight? I may be in the same boat as you.


38 posted on 05/21/2011 8:26:19 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: mj1234
Great news.

Numbers 1 and 4 have been the bane of my existence.

39 posted on 05/21/2011 8:29:46 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A "Moderate Muslim"? Nothing more than a Muslim Extremist who has run out of ammo.)
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To: mj1234

My father had it later in life. Lived till 77 with minor diet change.

1. Did not stop all alcohol drank only vodka
2. Limited all processed sugars-
3. Grew, froze and ate veggies. Developed a strange taste for Jerusalem artichokes.
4. Walked in the neighbothood when he could.

Several posts have mentioned that in a serious, long-term disaster, diabetics unable to maintain a store of insulin will have a high death rate.

The following may help. Note that Jerusalem artichokes contain Inulin, not Insulin; however, the effects are similar for stabilizing blood sugar levels, according to several online sources (see Jerusalem artichoke, diabetes, and inulin). Inulin works for diabetes, pre-diabetes, and hypoglycemia; and helps with overweight which is related to a variety of medical conditions. It may also help to prevent the development of diabetes for those prone to it, or with mild cases.


40 posted on 05/21/2011 8:34:11 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

First, check into Metformin.

http://www.worstpills.org/results.cfm?drug_id=391

Drug Recall for metformin (GLUCOPHAGE) reported in May 11, 2011 FDA Enforcement Report


41 posted on 05/21/2011 8:36:23 AM PDT by AngryIrishWoman Paddimelt
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"Find a new doctor. One who specializes in diabetes. The first word out of a doctor's mouth to someone who almost has Type 2 diabetes should not have been metformin."
this happened to me..after 2 years of metformin, and my blood sugar completely out of whack, I stopped taking it and went to another doctor....turns out I am not diabetic ( at the high end of normal, but normal none the less ) and the metformin was literally killing me. My A1C was always in the decent range. A1C is the teller of all....If you are between 3 and 6, you are normal. If you are 7 or above you are diabetic. If you are between 6 and 7, lose about 25 pounds and you will be normal...you can buy A1C testers at the drugstore...this is what you need to watch
42 posted on 05/21/2011 8:37:43 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Stay away from white foods. Eat the complex carbs, whole wheat bread, noodles, etc. Lots of good info posted. Don’t avoid all carbs through, just stick to complex/whole grain.


43 posted on 05/21/2011 8:53:17 AM PDT by libbylu ( Sarah Palin has more intestinal fortitude than 535 congress critters)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

This has kept my sugar in check (100 to 120) for about six years.
http://www.alohamedicinals.com/levolar-forte.htm


44 posted on 05/21/2011 8:56:08 AM PDT by anchorclankor (From the main part of Missouri)
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To: waredbird

Were you always hungry when you were just easting salads three times a day? I always seem to get extremely hungry if I have a meal that does not have much starch.


45 posted on 05/21/2011 8:57:34 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Take a class on managing diabetes. Most health insurers will pay for it and it is very worth while. Then follow the advice given to you.

If you are at all overweight, lose 5% or better yet 10% of your body weight and you’ll likely see a very significant change in your blood sugar levels. You’ll likely feel better overall too.

Eat smaller, but more frequent meals, so your body doesn’t go into fasting mode. Have a small low sugar snack just before bed if you can. It helps to keep the liver from producing so much glucose while you’re asleep. I think it is about 35% of diabetics have their highest blood sugar in the morning when they wake up.

Wear a medical bracelet that states you are on Metformin in case you’re in an accident. It doesn’t get along too well with some medical imaging dyes.

I hope this is helpful.


46 posted on 05/21/2011 9:01:57 AM PDT by chickenlips
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Find a new doctor. One who specializes in diabetes. The first word out of a doctor's mouth to someone who almost has Type 2 diabetes should not have been metformin.

Good advice. Mr. RightField has Type 2 and his first doctor sent him to a dietician for nutritional advice. She was overweight, had Type 2 herself, and advised him to increased his consumption of carbs such as saltine crackers and baked potatoes. Count calories, she said. We refused to pay the co-pay for the session, and walked out. They never rebilled us.

After discovering that diabetic cookbooks were just like regular cookbooks (except they gave the carb count for each dish) we retooled our diet ourselves ... no flour, sugar, potatoes or rice ... or any item containing any of these. Lots of green vegetables and moderate fruit. No fruit juices.

The result is that after 15 years as a diabetic, Mr. RightField has had no complications from the disease, has never increase his meds, and has lost weight.

You must be your own advocate. Read up and learn. And pay attention to your own body.

47 posted on 05/21/2011 9:09:57 AM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I was on metfornin and constantly had hypoglycemia. My cardiologist took me off ALL diabetes meds.

They’re way to quick to diagnose Type II in my oppinion. I certainly don’t understand why a doctor would give you blood sugar lowering drugs because you’re “close” to having diabetes.

Your blood sugar can usually be controlled with exercise and diet. Be careful and a second oppinion certainly wouldn’t hurt.


48 posted on 05/21/2011 9:32:41 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: warsaw44

Eat meat.


49 posted on 05/21/2011 9:40:03 AM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Good advice. If you don’t even know if you have diabetes I would not get on medication. My sister in law’s doctor has been on her for 2 years to take medication. She just kept refusing and she has stayed thin and eats right. She just had blood tests which show she definitely does not have diabetes. He was trying to put her on insulin. You have to be very careful about getting on these drugs.


50 posted on 05/21/2011 9:49:57 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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