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To: BladeBryan

I don’t give a damn whether Pryor’s assertion passed peer review to appear in the Yale Law Review. Yale, Harvard, and Princeton do NOT make U.S. law; Congress makes U.S.law and SCOTUS determines its constitutionality.

Whatever universities fancy academically for the moment means NOTHING. Hell, seventy years ago many of those same universities thought Mussolini was a genius!

Read the following information on Panama and citizenship carefully, and remember - citizenship does not equal ‘natural born citizen’.

Panama Canal Zone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_Zone

CITIZENSHIP

Although the Panama Canal Zone was legally an unincorporated U.S. territory until the implementation of the Torrijos-Carter Treaties in 1979, questions arose almost from its inception as to whether the Zone was considered part of the United States for constitutional purposes, or, in the phrase of the day, whether the Constitution followed the flag. In 1901 the U.S. Supreme Court had ruled in Downes v. Bidwell that unincorporated territories are not the United States.{3] On July 28, 1904, Controller of the Treasury Robert Tracewell stated: “While the general spirit and purpose of the Constitution is applicable to the zone, that domain is not a part of the United States within the full meaning of the Constitution and laws of the country.”[4] Accordingly, the Supreme Court held in 1905 in Rasmussen v. United States that the full Constitution only applies for incorporated territories of the United States.[5] Until the rulings in these so-called “Insular Cases”, children born of two U.S. citizens in the Canal Zone had been subject to the Naturalization Act of 1795, which granted statutory U.S. citizenship at birth. With the ruling of 1905 persons born in the Canal Zone only became U.S. nationals, not citizens.[6] This no man’s land with regard to U.S. citizenship was perpetuated until Congress passed legislation in 1937, which corrected this deficiency. The law is now codified under title 8 section 1403.[7] It not only grants statutory and declaratory born citizenship to those born in the Canal Zone after February 26, 1904, with at least one U.S. citizen parent, but also did so retroactively for all children born of at least one U.S. citizen in the Canal Zone before the law’s enactment.[8]

References

1. “Panamanian Control”, Panama Canal, infoplease.com, http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/world/A0860218.html, retrieved 2008-06-02
2. Rhonda D. Frederic (2005), Colón Man a Come”: Mythographies Of Panama Canal Migration, Lexington Books, p. 33, ISBN :0739108913, http://books.google.com/?id=CSNTpYIB228C
3. United States Supreme Court, Downes v. Bidwell.
4. (PDF) Not Part of United States, The New York Times, July 29, 1904, http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9C06E1DF113BE631A2575AC2A9619C946597D6CF, retrieved 2008-06-02 |
5. United States Supreme Court, [1].
6. “Nationality” in: 7 FAM 1111.3 (c).
7. 8 U.S.C. § 1403
8. Cf. 8 U.S.C. § 1403, paragraph (a): “whether before or after the effective date of this chapter”.

Quote from above: “,,,grants statutory and declaratory born citizenship to those born in the Canal Zone after February 26, 1904,..but also did so retroactively for all children born of at least one U.S. citizen in the Canal Zone before the law’s enactment.”

Being a citizen DOES NOT equal natural born citizenship.

John S. McCain is not a natural born citizen. Congress can only change the U.S.Constitution through amendment, and that requires the approval of a majority of the states.

Neither Obama nor McCain are natural born citizens; therefore they are not eligible to be President of the U.S.A.


153 posted on 07/03/2011 2:55:16 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

SatinDoll wrote: “I don’t give a damn whether Pryor’s assertion passed peer review to appear in the Yale Law Review. Yale, Harvard, and Princeton do NOT make U.S. law; Congress makes U.S.law and SCOTUS determines its constitutionality.”

Congress confirmed Barack Obama’s election, and Congress recognizes him as President. The Chief Justice of the United States — A.K.A. Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court — swore Obama in as President (twice!). Federal courts all over the nation, including the Supreme Court, have welcomed and sworn in judges nominated, and with advice and consent of Senate appointed, by President Obama.

SatinDoll, if you don’t care what the peer-reviewed literature of American Law says, that’s just a statement of how far out you’ve gone. Congress and the Judiciary constantly cite the literature. If you refuse to take any clue, then Obama remains president and you remain clueless. I expect that’s fine with Obama. Does it work for you?

I may disagree with many here when I say this: The 2008 presidential election made me proud to an American. We had two great candidates: one liberal, one conservative, both of whom connected with the mainstream. Eight years before, I had thought that a Bradley versus McCain race would be a great contest, and ‘twould have been even better had Colin Powell ran.


156 posted on 07/03/2011 4:37:06 AM PDT by BladeBryan
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