Posted on 07/26/2011 2:23:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks!
Actually it did. Any gun can have "one-shot kill power" when used correctly so it's just a matter of what you like,how much you want to pay and how much you're willing to invest in practice. If you don't think that makes a difference check out the price of a box of .44 magnums vs a box of .22 magnums or see how long it would take for an investment in reloading equipment to pay off. Having a powerful handgun is a waste of time and money if you can't afford to shoot it.
http://www.bing.com/shopping/ar-15-mod4sa-lower-receiver-stripped-mod4sa-ar-15-lower-receiver/p/7EE5D182FE1A5F355003?q=ar+lower&lpq=ar%20lower&FORM=HURE
Ok, you're at $90 for a stripped lower. Keep going until you hit $500.
You need:
A lower receiver parts kit (including trigger, hammer, sear, trigger guard, pistol grip, and all the little pins and springs,) $80
A stripped upper (with forward assist plunger and dust cover. So much for saving money the MP15 Sport way...) $100
A bolt and carrier, $110
A barrel with gas block and sight, $145
I'm already over $500 and I still need a charging handle, gas tube, buffer and buffer tube, buttstock, handguard and delta rings, rear sights, etc. Not to mention an Armor's tool or a castle nut wrench and a barrel wrench.
You get the idea. Even if you were a very shrewd internet shopper, it's still more like at least $650 these days to piece together a carbine from new parts, and even more by the time you add in all of the shipping charges from the various web sites.
I'm sure you have a well stocked parts bin, so a lot of the little stuff you already have on hand. I bet you could pull off a $500 build from all new major parts plus your scrounge bin. But for a first time AR owner, this MP15 Sport isn't a half bad deal.
Love the Taurus Judge. The best thing in my mind was the new shotgun shells that have something like 3-4 00 shot in them. Even if you don’t get exactly on target in time the perp is still likely to get a taste that will not set well. Combine that with the .45 rounds and you’ve got a great self defense weapon. The original was a bit long for conceal but they have a smaller snub version that came out as well that works better - given it is a revolver.
If you mean my Baretta 92FS.....my wife and kids chipped in for my birthday and I bought the 92FS, made in Italy, in stainless steel. Cost was $699.
Being Italian by descent, I just wanted the Italian made gun. I have talked to a LOT of military and LEO folks who tell me there is no difference between the Italian and Baretta USA versions. The only reason Baretta set up shop in Maryland was to keep up with their contract with the US Military to supply the 92FS as the standard M9. Same gun.
You can get a non-stainless version for less than $500. Also check out the M9 commemorative version with special grips and markings for around $599 at Bud's Gun Shop.
Here's a real nice 15 round Italian made 92FS in blue steel:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_52/products_id/39954
That’s what the article claims.
The Best Concealed Carry Handguns
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Thank you for the great tips....and the pricing. (I’ve got to put a few more $$ away before I head for the store).
How you doin'??
You are very welcome. Good Luck. Whatever you purchase, get to the range and practice, practice...and have a whole lot of fun!!
Thanks again for the info!!
It's worth taking advantage of deals that aren't "half bad." Five or six years ago, ArmaLite had an introductory deal on their Eagle Arms polymer (manufactured by Cav Arms) lower receivers: $125, including a matching lower parts kit. Not too long after that, I got an ArmaLite SOF upper assembly (16" chrome lined barrel, mid-length gas system, etc.), complete with bolt/carrier and charging handle, for $379 on clearance. Total price for the carbine: $504 (plus FFL & shipping, of course) - not "half bad!" It's worth watching the ArmaLite website for sales & clearance items.
That’s where the Plum Crazy lower comes in handy on a sub-$500 build. It is around $125, and it is a complete lower with all internals, buffer and buffer tube, and adjustable buttstock. Literally lock in an upper and you’re ready to go.
Except it’s all plastic except for springs, buffer, and bolt catch. The rest of the lower, oncluding the hammer, sear, trigger, safety, mag catch, and even the take-down pins are plastic.
The Cav Arms lowers (including the ones they built for ArmaLite and - from what I was told - Sabre Defense) use standard AR internal parts, except for the buffer tube and a few associated parts (built into the Cav Arms butt stock), the take-down pins, and (IIRC) a small roll pin needed to retain the buffer retainer pin/spring. I had not heard of the Plum Crazy lower - thanks for the info!
Check out the S&w MP45. Can be had w/ a thumb safety. Similar price to Glocks, maybe a little cheaper.
IMO for a bedside gun, get a revolver. Safe, practically foolproof, no controls to fiddle with. .357 but load w/ .38s in the house. Muzzle blast in the house could leave you permanently deaf w/ .357s.
I shall check them out, Vinnie...and thanks for the tip about the “blast” effect!
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I went shooting with a buddy once, in a Texas rock pit. When we were about finished, he remembered his .357, and pulled it out. I had already put away my ear muff-type hearing protector (and the plugs I wear inside it), and didn't want to pull them out again just for a few rounds out of a revolver. Stuffed some cleaning patches in my ears (it worked when I was a kid shooting .22s, right?) and told him to have at it.
My ears rang for three months. I really thought it was permanent damage (and I thank God it wasn't). Don't go there, if you can avoid it.
ArmaLite (http://www.armalite.com, "12 Days of Armalite" sale) currently has a complete 16" upper assembly, including bolt carrier group & charging handle, on sale for $399 - almost $200 off the list price. If you can find a deal on a lower w/ parts kit (or have some of what you need in your parts box), you could probably come in under $600.
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