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US Troops in Mideast Commanded to Abide by Sharia law during Ramadan
Atlas Shrugs ^ | 7/28/11 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 07/28/2011 8:55:30 PM PDT by Nachum

More outrageous surrender demanded of our brave troops by the complicit elite in the Obama administration. Respect for the sharia? Respect for the dehumanization and diminishment of women? Respect for honor killings? Islamic antisemitism? Ethnic cleansing? Gender apartheid? Hatred of non-Muslims? Homicide bombings? Jihad?

Respect for sharia? WTH are our troops doing over there if respect for the sharia is US foreign policy/

US troops in Mideast told to abide by sharia law during Ramadan July 28, 2011 by creeping

Didn’t critics of anti-sharia laws, including Muslims, swear that sharia law only applies to Muslims? Religion of intolerance. If it ain’t halal, they don’t tolerate it. via Troops in Mideast given guidance on Ramadan – Middle East – Stripes.

As Muslims prepare to observe the holy month of Ramadan with fasting and prayer, U.S. troops across the Middle East are being reminded to respect the customs of the societies around them. Among the guidelines: Do not eat, drink, smoke or chew gum in public during the daily fast, and dress appropriately: no shorts or short skirts.

During Ramadan, which this year begins Aug. 1, Muslims refrain from eating or drinking between sunup and sundown.

Among guidance issued to U.S. military deployed in Muslim majority countries, the Bahrain-based command of U.S. Navy 5th Fleet posted guidance for sailors and their family members to heed during Ramadan when off base.

U.S. personnel are not expected to fast during Ramadan, but community members must refrain from eating, chewing gum, drinking water, smoking or chewing tobacco in public during daylight hours, according to 5th Fleet. “‘In public’ includes riding in a bus or car (even your own), walking or exercising,” according to the 5th Fleet’s Facebook page. “Eating, drinking or smoking by a non-Muslim in public during the day is considered a civil offence by many local laws, which may result in a fine or confinement.”

Alcohol consumption by U.S. military personnel in any off-base venue is prohibited during the holiday, with the exception of USO/MWR facilities, private off-base dwellings, or hotel rooms occupied by troops who are transferring or on a business trip.

Shorts are prohibited while off base during Ramadan as well, according to 5th Fleet, and women are required to wear pants or skirts long enough to cover their knees when seated.

Fifth Fleet spokesman Lt. Frederick Martin said this week that the command sends out Ramadan guidance annually.

“When in public, both in Bahrain and elsewhere in the 5th Fleet area of operations, Ramadan brings increased cultural and legal restrictions, which we, as guests in these countries, are expected to adhere to,” Martin said in an email.

In Kuwait and Qatar, U.S. 3rd Army provides training to troops, and also instructs them not to eat, drink, smoke or chew tobacco while off-base, spokesman Capt. James Sweeney said in an email.

“They are also warned that these actions are punishable under local law,” he said.

In Iraq, personnel are encouraged not to eat, drink or smoke in the presence of Muslims during the daytime hours, according to U.S. Forces-Iraq spokesman 1st Lt. Joseph Larrew.

“Also, any troops conducting meetings with Iraqis are encouraged to do so earlier in the day to be considerate to their needs,” he said in an email.

While NATO troops in the field across Afghanistan are not restricted from eating, drinking or smoking outside the wire, they are made aware of the holiday, according to Air Force Maj. Deb Balentine, a spokesman for the coalition’s International Security Assistance Force.

Troops are encouraged to be sensitive to the importance of fasting and not to eat or drink in front of Afghan citizens, she said.

They are also told to be aware of the limits fasting may put on Afghan police or soldiers’ abilities to conduct operations or train, she said.

A Defense Department press release Tuesday said Afghan soldiers and Marines from 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment in Helmand province were planning to distribute more than 1,200 bags of wheat grain to the local population.

“The Ramadan holiday is part of the daily life of every Afghan person,” 1st Lt. Paul Mooney, the assistant civil affairs team leader for 1/3, said in the release. “Showing we respect the holiday will help the perception of Marines to positively change.” When in the Middle East, abide by sharia. When elsewhere, demand sharia in everything you do.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: commanded; mideast; ramadan; sharia; shariahlaw; troops

1 posted on 07/28/2011 8:55:32 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 07/28/2011 8:56:03 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

What ever happened to the separation of church and state I keep hearing about?


3 posted on 07/28/2011 9:06:12 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Nachum

So any pregnant, unmarried, female soldiers should be stoned to death?


4 posted on 07/28/2011 9:09:59 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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To: Nachum

August 1st? Damn, I need to stock up on pork products. I like to make sure I have some with each meal during this festive period.


5 posted on 07/28/2011 9:09:59 PM PDT by Ronin (Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
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To: Nachum

I believe the military needs to revolt. Seriously. Toss out the Muslim in Chief.


6 posted on 07/28/2011 9:24:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Nachum; LucyT; Candor7; Travis McGee; MestaMachine

I don’t even know who to ping. This is beyond infuriating and hateful I’m freaked out just by reading this.


7 posted on 07/28/2011 9:44:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Lancey Howard

FYI ping


8 posted on 07/28/2011 9:45:54 PM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: Nachum

Back when....aka Desert Storm we had the Canooks out of Germany fly in about 300 pounds of pork ribs for Ramadan. Our own crews couldn’t be bribed to sneak it in to us.

Canadians out of Cold Lake an a base in Germany were colocated with us. Beer brats Canadian Club etc.... Good troops to barter with. They got mail every day versus our every three weeks.

So we had our mail sent to buddies in they’re units an they brought it over to us.

Never go to war without a Canadian or an Australian !

Stay safe...


9 posted on 07/28/2011 9:49:24 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Nachum

“Eating, drinking or smoking by a non-Muslim in public during the day is considered a civil offence by many local laws, which may result in a fine or confinement.”

Cautioning them about abiding by local laws. That’s ugly.


10 posted on 07/28/2011 9:49:54 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Nachum

Muslim holiday: Rub-a-dub.


11 posted on 07/28/2011 9:50:27 PM PDT by Blackhawk45 (Diversity - Just another form of racism!!)
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To: little jeremiah

LJ, they are TEACHING sharia in our Military Academies for Officer Training. They are also teaching the five pillars of islam. We might not be able to trust our new officers so much anymore since they come from leftist academia. This is a horrible problem and someone should be shouting this from the rooftops.


12 posted on 07/28/2011 9:53:20 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Nachum; Yehuda

Ramadan fasting-by-day reminds me of the Junk Food Junkie song.


13 posted on 07/28/2011 9:54:31 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Ezekiel

Larry Groce - Junk Food Junkie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH9u35cK4iQ


14 posted on 07/28/2011 9:56:35 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Time to bring the folks home. Enough of this garbage.


15 posted on 07/28/2011 10:04:55 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Nachum

The Navy seems to have taken a pretty reasonable approach to this to me.

Heck If you are stationed in the UK, you don’t get to drive on the right side of the road. If you are stationed in Germany a BBQ on your back porch, they cops come see you as that is illegal there.


16 posted on 07/28/2011 10:21:57 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: MestaMachine

I’ve read about stuff like that also for departments here in the US.

Just thinking about it makes me practically sick with anger.

It’s going to get to the point where normal, non-muz, non-leftist drone/fools cannot take it any more.

Those pushing evil will never stop on their own accord or every say “We have enough” - not until our heads are bowed and we’re putting shackles on our own feet.


17 posted on 07/28/2011 10:33:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Nachum

Thanks! :)

As for the staying power of junk food (or Islam as it were), the examples in the song are all still well-known and sold today.

On the plus side, it’s a good jab at the modern organic/green/envirowacko movement.


18 posted on 07/28/2011 10:48:40 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: JLS

Well, yes. We were stationed 3 years in Germany. While there, we were encouraged to respect their culture and obey their laws. Even a culture as close to ours as Germany has its differences.


19 posted on 07/28/2011 11:00:28 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... Iowa 61)
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To: MestaMachine
LJ, they are TEACHING sharia in our Military Academies for Officer Training. They are also teaching the five pillars of islam. We might not be able to trust our new officers so much anymore since they come from leftist academia. This is a horrible problem and someone should be shouting this from the rooftops.

I've received many classes on Islam in my time in the Army. Was it to convert me? NO. It was so I could know my enemy and how they think and how they do things.

Do NOT be so dumb as to confuse knowing the other side with capitulation.

20 posted on 07/28/2011 11:04:52 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: little jeremiah; MestaMachine; Future Snake Eater; JLS
"we’re putting shackles on our own feet."

Not certain how to assess this Ramadan edict for the military, but "we’re putting shackles on our own feet" is such an apt phrase for nearly all edicts currently handed down from our current rulers public servants that I want to make note of it.

MM and Future Snake Eater: Who, other than the 5th Fleet, isn't allowed to drink WATER in "public"? All? Some? If so, why 5th Fleet? and Bahrain?

How many years has this been going on? I hardly know where to begin, but let's just start with the WATER edict.

"Among guidance issued to U.S. military deployed in Muslim majority countries, the Bahrain-based command of U.S. Navy 5th Fleet posted guidance for sailors and their family members [not children???] to heed during Ramadan when off base.

U.S. personnel are not expected to fast during Ramadan, but community members must refrain from eating, chewing gum, drinking water, smoking or chewing tobacco in public during daylight hours, ..."

These US personnel are being ordered to ACT like they are fasting...in public even to the extremity of not drinking water in public.

Future Snake Eater: Is not drinking water in public for the month of August in the ME a reasonable order in your mind? JLS: That's quite a leap from driving on the "wrong" side of the rode in the UK.

21 posted on 07/28/2011 11:26:18 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: Nachum

Any commander that let his troops be punished by the locals for eating or chewing gum, should face a general court martial for dereliction.


22 posted on 07/29/2011 12:08:27 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Nachum

Sweet!

Now the lowliest E-1 can beat, rape, and kill the highest ranking female on whatever US military installation is in the mideast! Honor killing of females for rape is permissible in sharia-law... so, by definition, must be practiced by our troops in order to properly respect Islam.

That, and our troops can now kill every Muslim they see... under the guise of the Muslim not showing the proper level of Islamic devotion.

Isn’t Sharia grand?

(end sarcasm)


23 posted on 07/29/2011 1:57:08 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Nachum
Q: What was the prophet Mohamed's last words to the Arabs.

A: Don't do anything until I get back.

24 posted on 07/29/2011 2:04:05 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Those who trade land for peace will end up with neither one.)
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To: Nachum
“Also, any troops conducting meetings with Iraqis are encouraged to do so earlier in the day to be considerate to their needs,” he said in an email.

And completely miss using a very old and well-known bargaining tactic in the Mid-East (and elsewhere when dealing with Muhammadans during Ramadan).

25 posted on 07/29/2011 3:26:16 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: Nachum

This is unconstitutional, and any soldier who refuses this order will be exhonerated.


26 posted on 07/29/2011 4:05:48 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Nachum

Ramadan is a celebration of a murderous act. (Spit)


27 posted on 07/29/2011 6:01:21 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: thouworm
Is not drinking water in public for the month of August in the ME a reasonable order in your mind?

Yes. As a safety issue, it's a no-brainer. Haji cops can throw you in jail for eating or drinking in public during daylight hours of Ramadan. And that's just the so-called "law and order" side of things. How many outraged hajis could possibly attack someone eating or drinking?

I had to pretend like I gave a damn about those people and their idiotic beliefs over there, so can others. It's not that hard.

28 posted on 07/29/2011 6:40:01 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Nachum

Our troops dehumanized at every turn. When is enough enough?


29 posted on 07/29/2011 9:52:37 AM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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To: Nachum

I’m waiting to see if Ozero takes his wedding ring and watch off again this year. He wants out of town quickly.


30 posted on 08/01/2011 8:44:16 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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