New Debt Deal “Super Congress” is Super Unconstitutional

scottfactor.com ^ | 08/04/2011 | Gina Miller

[RoadTest]

“our federal government fully morphs into a communist dictatorship, while we can do almost nothing to stop it. “

They’ve been at it too long - Soviets have been in our State Department for 65 years. Our schools have been Socializing us for almost a hundred years.

[Big_Harry]

If we let this “Super Congress” stand without a loud and prolonged protest, including a march by the millions on Washington, we will lose the remnants of the Republic in our brief lifetimes.

[Smokin' Joe]

I have paltry enough representation in COngress as it is, with three of the 535 allegedly representing me, and one patently at odds with the other two.

Raise my taxes in some 'supercommittee/SuperCongress', and odds are I will have been taxed with no effective representation at all.

No taxation without representation!

Now, where have I heard that before?

[ClearCase_guy]

"The funny thing is that everyone is running around proclaiming that the Tea Party won this battle. That is a complete and total lie.”

The key point. We lost. The Tea Party lost. We lost badly. We got nothing at all -- but now, any subsequent bad news is 100% our fault, because we "won".

Obama's chances for re-election, while still not good, increased quite a bit when the debt deal went through.

[The Sons of Liberty]

After Baraq Hussein mohammed 0bama got his Death Panels, the next logical step was to gain full control of the people. The "super congress" will allow that and gun control will only be the first step.

Take Back AMERICA! Restore The Constitution!
FUBO GTFO 2012 !

[mrsmith]

Napolitano is wrong again (.

It is a bad idea but only a total moron would claim it’s unconstitutional for a House to “make it’s own rules”.

This legislayion doesn’t bind any future congress of course.
But unlike “the cuts!, the cuts!” in the debt bill it doesn’t claim to.

[panaxanax]

“Super Congress”

Jefferson, Madison, Washington, et al, are spinning in their graves.

Start plucking the chickens and boiling the tar. It’s time, Patriots, it’s time.

[Rashputin]

So, they let the whole issue of “Barry and the Forty Czars” slide why shouldn't they do a little unconstitutional stuff for their on benefit?

[wolfpat]

We’re getting awfully close to having to use the 2nd Amendment for its original purpose.

[Truth29]

Other articles have been saying not to be alarmed because if the committee deadlocks, the automatic defense cuts won't come until 2013 and can be reversed by the next Congress. That is cold comfort, but it still focuses on the revenue actions of the committee. This article raises the specter that other permanent legislative matters could be run through the same protected committee process and fast tracked into law.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”Stated differently, the legislation will so change the relationship of Congress to this group by creating a new group. It will take power from Congress and give it to this group, and the Congress can’t do that.”

The super-congress is cowardly and unlikely to succeed here but it is constitutional and takes NO powers away from congress. Congress passed the law making these rules and they can pass another that gets rid of them, or they can remove the trigger.

They removed the ability to debate these recommendations from ‘individual members of congress’ not the congress as a whole.

If fact what would happen if at the end of next year one house decided to ignore the law and voted on the super-congress recommendations and allowed debate and amendments on it anyway? It's not like they would be told by the courts what to do. All this law does is impose the trigger based on specific conditions.

[sport]

So is a number of things they have been doing since a majority of the the voters put their messiah in the White House. And since no one in a position of authority wishes to stop them . What is one more thing?

The Republicans? As has been demonstrated by te debt increase deal, they are co-conspirators. The sheep? They are too busy watching American Idol, America's Got Talent, and Can You Dance?

[ml/nj]

The whole government is unconstitutional. Franklin is famously quoted describing our newly framed government as "A republic, if you can keep it." We couldn't. Much as it is fashionable to look down upon Judge Taney and his Dred Scott decision, he essentially wrote that our government was constituted by a class of people with a common heritage for themselves. Some of us who came later adopted that heritage. But now most who come here reject it. The Torah contains all sorts of curious prohibitions upon mixings. One shouldn't mix milk and meat; or wool and linen. It's not clear why. But I think Judge Taney knew.

ML/NJ

[NavyCanDo]

“This ‘Super Congress,’ composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn’t mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers.”

When I heard Rush say yesterday that “America is over” I was at first shocked that Rush would say something like that. But now I understand what he was talking about. When both parties agree to this “Super Congress” a party of 6 plus the President as the tie breaker, who would make the final decision when the full body cant decide, we are truly going down a very dark path.

[quintr]

later

[The Sons of Liberty]

"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson November 13, 1787

[Erik Latranyi]

The super-congress is cowardly and unlikely to succeed here but it is constitutional and takes NO powers away from congress. Congress passed the law making these rules and they can pass another that gets rid of them, or they can remove the trigger.

Thank you for some sanity.

While it is a way to shield individual members from any legislation enacted as a result of this "super-congress", it was created by congress, with the approval of congress.

It is just like the base-closing commission that is created to shield members from local retribution.

There are plenty of unconstitutional actions taking place, like the Executive Branch ignoring court orders, Fast & Furious, EPA over-stepping its boundaries, etc.

[Venturer]

I cannot believe that the other members of Congress who will not be on the Super Committee allowed this to happen.

They just had what little power they had taken away at the drop of the Presidential pen.

The fact is we need them to show up once a week to vote yay or nay and otherwise they may as well stay home. The Super Committee is in charge.

[Truth29]

I would be most alarmed by the prospect that non-financial legislation could be moved through this super committee with no opportunity for the regular committee process, no amendments and forced whole Senate and House votes. All sorts of “progressive” ideas could be run into law quickly.