good points all...
Posted on 08/12/2011 7:56:16 AM PDT by Travis McGee
I agree. And another factor to consider is that there has never been a social upheaval such as the one we’re discussing, where the law-abiding population was so well armed. Including with tens of millions of scoped deer rifles. The FLEAs will not be eager to incur the general wrath of a “million deer rifle army of one,” with no group, no membership, nothing but shots fired one at a time from long range.
I just hope I’m around to see the other end of the coming Time of Troubles.
Yeah, that recommendation made me smile too.
I’ll remind you what happened to the World War I veterans that camped on the Washington Mall demanding that Congress pay them the bonus they were promised early (google bonus army for the story). This was for the most part a peaceful demonstration that happened at the start of the depression in 1932. A Republican President sent the Army in to kick them out with several people being killed (including a baby). Don’t think that if you represent a threat to the powers that be that they won’t find the time and resources to deal with you, even if everything else is going to hell. Looters that are killing, robbing and raping other peons don’t represent a threat to them so they won’t really care but an armed and organized group trying to take control does and they will react very swiftly and forcefully.
I lived through the LA riots after the Rodney King beating and I can tell you that if you had been shooting at the looters in the nicer parts of town that you would have been arrested (in fact many shop owners were arrested and sent to jail for a long, long time). The Armed Koreans for the most part were ignored by the cops because they were in the middle of the no go zone for the cops. So I would say that it would depend on where you are because even in that situation there were places were the cops still had control. Also, it was more of a political move by the cops to pull out of the black areas rather than a lack of manpower (at least at first).
In any case survival will be your first priority during those time and trust me there won’t be much opportunity to organize a revolution when your looking for the next meal.
The Bonus Army affair cannot possibly be used as an example of federal might. A bunch of people camping in DC being attacked with lethal force is a far cry from SHTF whereby the people are armed to the teeth, pissed off, and looking for payback and trying to survive. No person claiming authority would be left alive. The people would have nothing left to lose or to give expect their hatred and anger. Imagine a community trying to provide itself fresh water being told by anyone, government or otherwise, that the river is off limits. What kind of government employee could possibly be so stupid as to try, knowing that the last employee that tried that was never found?
good points all...
Interesting points, but they will not be relevant. The Bonus Army showed how the federal govt might be willing to use deadly force to break up a camp on federal property, but so what? Intent and willingness to use force won’t mean Jack Squat when the feds are not being paid, but they are risking a bullet from nowhere every time they step outside.
The fedgov might be perfectly willing to employ the FLEAs and the military against Constitutional patriots, that does not mean they will be able to prevent the “ten million deer rifle army of one” from taking them out, one at a time, on a personal level.
And that goes for the families of LEOs and FLEAs: report for duty to attempt arresting your neighbors and fellow citizens, the ex-military experienced hunters, because some nimrod in DC wants to be a dictator, or take care of your own.
When society collapses, a significant portion of LEOs and FLEAs will likely be AWOL protecting their families and/or refusing to trample the Constitution.
You can carve that in stone. And the Powers that Be will be far more interested in employing the remaining on duty FLEAs in VIP protection (of themselves) rather than in rooting out widely scattered constitutional patriots.
roger that... their names and addresses are known in the areas they "Protect and Serve"
And the FLEAs, few in number, may suddenly find out that the local LEOs are no longer interested in playing the role of dutiful support troops.
yup, being lackeys of lackeys will no longer be a desirable gig once they have some skin in the game...
I just received my copy of this book. Nicely done. Good info but never to detailed to lose the reader. Leaves lots to personal interpretation instead of prescribing as most other books do.
” The bibliography alone would be worth the price.”
No doubt! I thought I knew most of the vendors in the community but he gave references to a few I didn’t know of.
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