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To: mad_as_he$$
An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity.

The thought crossed my mind that I have NEVER read an argument on FR, or anywhere else, nor have I heard anyone clamoring for closing down the Canada/U.S. border - a border that somewhat fits the description in Perry's speech. I'm also wondering what exactly would be the disagreement with having a southern border open, but free of the problems with illegal immigration, drug trafficking, and other problems which currently exist.

68 posted on 08/16/2011 9:27:41 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad
I'm also wondering what exactly would be the disagreement with having a southern border open, but free of the problems with illegal immigration, drug trafficking, and other problems which currently exist.

Nothing...except for the fact that it's never going to happen, because Meh-Hee-Co will always be a Turd World hellhole.

69 posted on 08/16/2011 9:29:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SoldierDad
I'm also wondering what exactly would be the disagreement with having a southern border open...

I can't believe I'm reading this on FR. Are you serious?

Erasing a border, regardless of the conditions, means the U.S. doesn't exist anymore for borders are the very definition of a country.

Is your son in Afghanistan fighting to allow mexicans free access to the U.S.?

From your home page: "My family goes back before the American Revolution. We've had members of our family who've fought in every war since the Revolutionary War. I will Support and Defend . . . So help me God! "

What are you willing to "support and defend"? The idea that mexico and the U.S. will become united? Were we to erase our borders what, exactly, would our troops be defending?

The history of the world and nations are all about borders - those pesky lines that define a people. And, in the case of the United States, define and contain the ideals that made this country the greatest on earth. To erase the lines is the same as erasing the ideals because the very nature of an erased border means we then accept the ideals of the country that we joined together with.

I just can't believe I read this on FR.

109 posted on 08/16/2011 6:30:38 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: SoldierDad
The thought crossed my mind that I have NEVER read an argument on FR, or anywhere else, nor have I heard anyone clamoring for closing down the Canada/U.S. border - a border that somewhat fits the description in Perry's speech. I'm also wondering what exactly would be the disagreement with having a southern border open, but free of the problems with illegal immigration, drug trafficking, and other problems which currently exist.
Given a Mexico that were to have a comparable standard of living to us, an open border may be feasable. Even then security issues would remain, just as they do with Canada. But today, we are being invaded. We can barely assimilate legal immigrants, or even our young thanks to the left. And now we have a revanchist and irridentist Mexico, sending settlers and colonists north.
If you think isn't a problem, look at how we aqcuired Tejas, or what happened to Rome when the Goths flooded their empire. The Danube has been breeched, Hadrionople awaits us thanks to the treason of our political class, and the ignorance and cowed nature of the American voters.
163 posted on 08/21/2011 12:18:12 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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