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(Vanity) Thoughts on Perry
grey_whiskers | Aug. 16, 2011 | grey_whiskers

Posted on 08/16/2011 9:42:18 PM PDT by grey_whiskers

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To: Manic_Episode
I mentioned that in the article. GMTA, and so do ours.

(If Perry were a Freeper, he'd have been ZOTTED -- as someone else pointed out later in this thread.)

Cheers!

161 posted on 08/17/2011 4:08:44 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
It's why I think of him as an establishment candidate.

It's the kind of thing Palin would be looking under rocks to uncover.

Cheers!

162 posted on 08/17/2011 4:10:29 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Bachmann *may* have the excuse that Carter was the first Prez candidate to play the "born-again" card. He fooled a lot of people with that at first.

Depends on when she converted to Christianity...

Reagan is quite clearly a conservative: "The Democrat Party left me." He amnesty was getting suckered by Congress, as he was with the mythical $3-in-cuts-for-$1-taxes.

If Palin thinks Perry is a straight up conservative, then that is proof that I'm not a Palin KAD: I disagree with her.

Palin may not be absolutely pure, but she's a hell of a lot better than Perry.

And as I noted earlier to you, there is more than one set of elites: and most of them dislike Palin. (Look at Rove sounding the alarm the last day or so; look at Fee, Fi, Fag, Frum trashing her today.)

Cheers!

163 posted on 08/17/2011 4:17:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Not buying it about the 100% effective.

See for example The Wall Street Journal in 2008.

That was with 20 seconds of Googling.

The point is, government officials shouldn't make vaccines for non-communicable diseases mandatory: particularly when the illness in question is linked to promiscuity, they shouldn't order the vaccine for children. This is implicitly saying "the kids are gonna do it anyway" and it undermines morality and parental authority.

And as Michelle Malkin (known commie liberal, right?) pointed out today, Perry blustered that the legislature *couldn't* overturn an EO.

Typical swaggering jerk, Perry is. Normally you only find that kind of attitude in Massachusetts.

Cheers!

164 posted on 08/17/2011 4:23:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
What has Gore done since then?

What has Perry done since then?

A snapshot, or a shot up to some time in the past, is not sufficient to recommend someone when their subsequent behaviour falls short of conservative standards.

Cheers!

165 posted on 08/17/2011 4:25:07 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: TBP
Thanks.

Cheers!

166 posted on 08/17/2011 4:28:02 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: South40
Concur on the Fraud.

Cheers!

167 posted on 08/17/2011 4:29:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: jessduntno
There was an opt-out clause: but why set it up that way if you are conservative?

It undermines morality and parental authority.

Much better to make it explicitly optional, with an "opt-in" -- and that'd've opened up a whole new firestorm from the conservative parents about morality...

Cheers!

168 posted on 08/17/2011 4:31:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

My thoughts on Perry....

The RinoCracy may “allow” him the presidency this cycle because of his position on immigration....and immigration only. They are reluctant to support him because he turned his back on the Dems...


169 posted on 08/17/2011 4:33:04 PM PDT by mo
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To: grey_whiskers
What has Gore done since then?

Who cares what Gore has done since then? He's scum and not worth considering beyond his positions in 1988 as they relate to Rick Perry. The point was that the 1988 Gore that Perry supported is very different from the 2011 Gore.

I didn't offer information to convince anyone one way or the other about Perry. My only goal was to present balanced information so FReepers can make an informed decision. I want to encourage discussion of the issues and discourage infighting.

170 posted on 08/17/2011 4:41:47 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: wardaddy
When Palin enters...if she does then use your ammo.

Why should I give Perry a free pass? I disapprove of his policies whether or not Palin enters the race.

But hear this...should Perry get the nomination...and he could I think.

If Palin enters, he won't.

This forum and Fresno will heartily support him.

Only if Palin does not enter the fray.

So careful...things change here on a dime.

No they don't: this site remains genuine grass roots conservative.

Meanwhile I think Bachmann and even Perry are more to the social right than what I’m used to seeing GOP do at this stage and I am tickled pink...Romeny seems to be working on a collapsed bilge pump

That's Sarah's influence, and the Tea Party's.

Perry is acting right, but is still soft on Islam and open borders.

and if Sarah does enter then mo better

You betcha!

we might actually end up with a strong winner all said and done

Obama is toast, the spell is gone.

So why not go for a true conservative, since the race isn't down to the balance of a hair this time?

Romney pulling all these strings is fantasy..he is not doing good...it ain’t complicated...money out the butt and name and establishment power and can’t make headway now that things have cranked up...not good for him.

Romney is in trouble down to the roots of his CGI-generated hair.

This race is Perry..Bachmann and Palin should she enter...sounds great.

Go Palin!

Folks here who have walked a social conservative wastleand since Lord Magnus should be happy too...we are in decent shape

Go Sarah!

171 posted on 08/17/2011 4:46:22 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Steel Wolf

*100% PERCENT MANDATORY”?

100% mandatory would kill thousands of people from vaccine reactions, but I guess you’re FINE with that. My nephew was severely damaged by a DPT shot. He’s 27 and functions at the level of a 3 year old.

The state does not have the right to force people to be injected with something. Period.


172 posted on 08/17/2011 4:47:37 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("President Fox's vision for an open border is a vision I embrace"- Rick Perry)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Didn't you notice *my* link to Perry's own page, with a speech where he quotes from the Koran?

Oops.

Nice try, though.

173 posted on 08/17/2011 4:48:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Mostly swagger and name-calling.

Typical of Texans.

Cheers!

174 posted on 08/17/2011 4:49:43 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
I'd like to know the context of this Gardasil thing.

Was Texas the only state that mandated Gardasil vaccinations?

Or was it the only state where people complained about them?

You can fault Perry for intrusiveness, bossiness, and perhaps for taking the pharmaceutical companies at their word and not waiting to see that the vaccine was safe.

I'm not so sure about the immorality charge if the vaccine is ultimately directed at cancer and has to be administered early to work: conceivably a woman could contract HPV in marriage, through no fault of her own.

175 posted on 08/17/2011 4:51:22 PM PDT by x
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To: JustAnotherOne
What does cash have to do with it before a candidate declares?

Palin is a household name, and very popular.

Therefore, she needs less cash.

...and nobody but Obama has been extorting cash from me anyway. My donation to Sarah will be not only voluntary, but EAGER. Look around FR to see people who are in dire straits who have nonetheless declared that they will give $1000 or $2000 to Sarah when she enters the race.

Cheers!

176 posted on 08/17/2011 4:51:53 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
The point is, government officials shouldn't make vaccines for non-communicable diseases mandatory: particularly when the illness in question is linked to promiscuity, they shouldn't order the vaccine for children. This is implicitly saying "the kids are gonna do it anyway" and it undermines morality and parental authority.

Agreed. If you read my post above about my decision regarding Gardasil for my children, you'll see that we're in agreement on that. Perry's decision was wrong. I don't dispute that.

And as Michelle Malkin (known commie liberal, right?) pointed out today, Perry blustered that the legislature *couldn't* overturn an EO.

Why the snide parenthetical comment? It's unnecessary. I like and respect Michelle Malkin.

I presented information on this thread that I considered when researching some of the issues you addressed in your vanity. It's important to consider all of the available information about Perry rather than accept only the negatives as relevant. Context and perspective are important to any productive discussion.

177 posted on 08/17/2011 4:55:19 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: CitizenUSA
Very thoughtful post.

Do your research, THEN decide.

Shake hands, FRiend.

Cheers!

178 posted on 08/17/2011 4:55:19 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: CitizenUSA

I always have.


179 posted on 08/17/2011 4:55:27 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Manic_Episode

Who campaigned for Rick Perry and Juan McCain? Initials SP.


180 posted on 08/17/2011 4:58:26 PM PDT by dforest
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