The CW2 Cube: Mapping the Meta-terrain of Civil War Two.
Posted on 08/21/2011 2:00:18 PM PDT by MarkAmerica
Thanks for posting in full.
Yes, it’s already too late. To paraphrase...”Hang on, we’re in for a bloody ride.”
No problem. Thanks for reading. Now, to the subject matter...
I'll echo that... thank you for not excerpting your post.
She is the only one, and they all know it.
I agree with you that human nature doesn’t change much, if at all, or certainly not on a timescale relevant to this discussion, and I know many of us are cynical about our prospects, but isn’t there any chance of repairing/restoring all of this? I suppose if not, I should better spend my efforts on a bunker and ample fortifications, and huddle waiting for the end.
See what I mean?
There are now more people who vote for a living than those who work for a living. I think the article is spot on. Our American culture has been dead for decades now to the point that today’s youth are unable to even comprehend that which has been lost.
I do see what you mean. We’ve been prepping for years now although it may be a waste of time. The coming civil unrest is the wild card in the equation.
In my opinion we are FUBAR’ed.
I don’t believe it’s too late.
As long as there is breath left it is not too late.
But it is going to be a difficult thing to do when the “entitlements” are adjusted as they will have to be.
As you said, there are people in this country who think they can (and do) demand that they be given everything they need to live ... housing, food, health care, education etc and when any of this is denied them they will have no recourse but to complain and riot.
A lot of them are not equipped to provide any of this for themselves, would have no idea of what to do if they had to.
It will be a difficult time to get through but given the proper people running things it can be done and I hope it is.
What we the people have to do is find suitable leadership to accomplish it.
I assume that you were not around as an integrated adult during the race/right/war/anti-everything civil violence of the fifties, sixties and early seventies. Or for the days of 20% mortgages and seemingly endless unemployment. Or the truly ugly culture wars that opened the gates and led us here. Or the changing of the US to a drug culture. Or the changing of the US to a welfare culture (for some).
We have been through much worse. We will get through this.
The thing I’m compelled to ask is: Whose fault is it that our kids, today’s young,don’t know the meaning of what’s being lost? I ask not to poke others, but to ask if there is anything we can yet do in that vein to change it.
The coming civil unrest is a wildcard. I think the manner in which we handle it will tell the tale.
WTC911, thanks for your typically welcoming response. I was born in 1965, for the record. I think the difference this time is that the people now running our government are all aboard for this, at least at the executive end of Penn Ave.
Yeah, it is too late. And the reason I think so is that most of the people who scream about cutting off entitlements are, in some sense, living off entitlements themselves. And none really willing to give an inch. No consensus, no compromise, no sharing the burden, no accord. Done.
My brother works for the government and he says he hates it, but feels trapped. Rejoin the private sector and hope for a job with McDonald’s or Walmart? Not going to happen.
Cut back on government employees. Cut back on all the “main” entitlements. What are these people going to do to try and survive? Get a job? There aren’t any jobs. It is a lose lose situation for the rich and the poor and me. Stuck in the middle. We have a disaster plan. Hope it will be enough.
I don’t think too many will disagree with your candidate of choice. Even if she isn’t their first, second or even third choice,most know she is one to put up a good fight.
Now on to the thesis. Obama is a symptom of a much greater problem- a dependency class who votes themselves perks and promises instead of freedom. Any one candidate won’t fix that, but we at least have to hope for a candidate (like Palin, Cain, or Perry) who has shown they aren’t afraid to not be politically correct and say it like it is versus just pander.
The real challenge, how do we change the minds and hearts of the fifty or so million who voted for obama or the hundreds of millions who vote based on who gives them what?
- Certain segments of the populace have been thoroughly indoctrinated into the idea that they have an unnumerated but unalienable right to a standard of living well beyond that to which honest labor would provide, and;
- A large portion of those segments of population have found violence and disruption to be an appropriate and successful way of getting their grievances redressed, even when those grievances are based on ignorance, prejudice, or desire to gain at others' expense, and;
- A large number of liberal elites have found inciting those aforementioned segments of population to be a successful tactic for forwarding their interests in counter to those of the republic, therefore;
If 0 doesn't make the cut, we should all probably victual up, hunker down, and lock and load.
We Americans have gotten fat and happy while losing sight of the evil that still lives all around. Add to that 40 years of unionized public education where liberal colleges turn out closet Marxists that have succeeded in removing any notion of a higher being. Add still a government subsidized underclass of single motherhood producing cities full of amoral, feral mobs ready to loot at a moments notice. These are conditions that I don't believe can be reversed at the ballot box. More's the pity!
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