[napscoordinator]

BS. What a load. You better come up with some really good sources on this nutty post.

[Huskrrrr]

This is but one source:

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.html

I have attended AA meetings for 24 years and have personally seen a number of old timers go back out. One had 34 years of sober time. Of all the personal stories written in the original AA book, all but one went back out.

The treatment center I attended in 1987 recently informed me that I was one of the few in my class of 50 who stayed sober.

I'm sure I could find more sources for you if you like.

[July4]

One of my neighbors, a pleasant-enough fellow, lived on disability income. His disability was that he was a drunk. He had a car and a driver's license; fortunately or unfortunately, he frequently forgot where he'd left the car. (Once, it was left in the middle of a road, where he abandoned it and walked home.) His house was paid for, his children were grown, and, when his wife left, he lived happily ever after—without working a single day.

Funny, except for the facts that (1) he could have hurt someone while driving drunk and (2) you and I paid for his chosen lifestyle with tax money confiscated from our earnings.