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To: dirtboy

“I’m not the one calling for extra-Constitutional methods that have utterly no chance of ever happening, dude.

Like I said. We have an election in a year. Let’s work on that.”

How much do we really know about this organization. This is possibly a false flag ops intended to give 0bama an excuse to declare martial law and suspend elections.


32 posted on 10/24/2011 5:23:13 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03
JB Williams is a big enough idiot to come up with this on his own, no false flag needed.

I think a veterans march to DC is a fine idea. But demanding the Constitution be upheld by extra-constitutional measures is a contradiction in terms. It needs to be a protest, not an exercise in absurdity.

37 posted on 10/24/2011 5:54:24 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: SVTCobra03
Paul Valleley, US Army Major Gen. (retired) is a major participant in the groups who are involved with this. You may recall he was a Fox military contributor. He lost his officer son in Iraq.

Their message: "we issue the following CALL for peaceful disobedience."

The call is led by MG Paul Vallely, Col. James Harding and Col. Harry Riley of Veteran Defenders of America (VDA), a service member division of The United States Patriots Union. Both are member-only organizations formed and funded by an undisclosed number of members.

38 posted on 10/24/2011 5:57:10 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: SVTCobra03

From the link, here’s a link to the organization:

http://www.veterandefenders.org/

“A veterans groups called The Veteran Defenders of America has now answered that question. In a documented Call-to-Action titled a – A Declaration to Restore the Constitutional Republic – former Military and Law Enforcement Officers have come together to demand that all oath-takers immediately execute their oaths in preservation of the Constitutional Republic.”

Here are three names with info copied from the link above, maybe people know about them. I know Gen. Vallely just a bit from reading on FR:


Colonel James Harding is one of the most decorated military leaders and pilots of our time and we are honored to welcome him aboard the Veterans Council of the United States Patriots Union.


A note from the founder Richard Van Waes

As veterans, we swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America and to defend it against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Quite simply, unlike any period in our long history, our freedoms are in jeopardy. Our domestic borders have been silently invaded with people who intend to harm us. There are thousands of terrorists and terror cells within the United States borders who have one goal as their agenda - the destruction of America as we know it. This simply cannot take place.

You, as a veteran, have training, skills and experience that uniquely enable you to prepare your family and community in the event of disasters, either natural or man-made. REMEMBER, we ALL can contribute some of our skilled training, in some small way. Together, we are a strong force.

May God bless you, your family and our nation. The time is now, join us.


It is my great privilege and honor to rally America’s veterans to join the ranks of the Veteran Defenders of America - now a division of PatriotsUnion.Org Network.

I meet veterans across America who share my grave concerns about the future safety of our country and the preservation of our cherished liberties.

Perhaps the greatest threat to our safety and liberty is the threat of radical Islam. This threat goes well beyond the threat of terrorism. Islamists, both inside and outside of America, are looking for any and every way to infiltrate and subvert our country through what is known as “stealth jihad.”

There are other threats to our safety and security, such as the threat of natural disasters, where a grassroots, volunteer organization of veterans could make a difference.

You and I swore an oath to defend our nation and our Constitution against all threats, foreign and domestic. When I retired from the Army, my oath did not retire, and I trust yours didn’t either. I call upon you today, my fellow veterans, to join me in honoring that oath by becoming a member of the Veteran Defenders of America.

The motto of the Veteran Defenders of America is “The eyes and ears of freedom, because we know freedom isn’t free.” I invite you to become a member of the Veteran Defenders of America and join me as our “eyes and ears of freedom.”

Paul E. Vallely, MG US Army (Ret)


41 posted on 10/24/2011 6:33:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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