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Police State TSA is Trucking Right Along
Dakota Voice ^ | November 1, 2011 | Gina Miller

Posted on 11/01/2011 6:52:47 AM PDT by WXRGina

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To: WXRGina

You believe all Muslims are terrorists?


21 posted on 11/01/2011 8:35:41 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr
You believe all Muslims are terrorists?

No. But most all terrorists are Muslim, and I don't hear much condemnation of Muslim terror crimes from the "non-terrorist Muslims, either.

22 posted on 11/01/2011 8:44:54 AM PDT by WXRGina
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To: stuartcr
I understand that clearly, how do you think security should be increased that wouldn’t infringe on people’s freedoms?

If indeed the premise that 'security' should be 'increased' is valid, then it should fall to each person to increase their 'feeling' of security, e.g. "An armed society is a polite society."

The weak look for others to take care of them. The time is long past to start reclaiming responsibility for ourselves. Arming oneself and learning to use a weapon effectively is the only real security. It also doesn't infringe on other people's freedoms.

Anything else is nanny state Bovine excrement.

23 posted on 11/01/2011 8:47:16 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: WXRGina

ok


24 posted on 11/01/2011 8:57:34 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

The security increases are not effective and potential terrorists will simply go around them, therefore I do not think there should be increased security where masses of law abiding Americans are searched in violation of their 4th Amendment rights.


25 posted on 11/01/2011 9:27:10 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: FightThePower!

So nothing should be done?


26 posted on 11/01/2011 9:31:49 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: JOAT

What about those that feel there is no need to increase their ‘feeling’ of security? Or those that ‘feel’ we need more? How do you balance the govts response to both of them?

What good does personal weapons do against explosive devices in a mall, or shipping containers at the docks?


27 posted on 11/01/2011 9:35:41 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

“So nothing should be done?”

Way to set up a straw man! No one said nothing should be done. We currently run everyone through metal detectors which no one is objecting to. We do object to the growing police state. The purpose of which isn’t to stop terror, its to take away freedoms of law abiding Americans. Rather than my try to prove a negative, why don’t you tell us how random searches on the highway, patting down six year olds and grandmas, questioning law abiding people at the airport about where they are going, who they are visiting will help us avoid a terrorist attack?


28 posted on 11/01/2011 9:59:30 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: stuartcr

“What about those that feel there is no need to increase their ‘feeling’ of security? Or those that ‘feel’ we need more? How do you balance the govts response to both of them?

What good does personal weapons do against explosive devices in a mall, or shipping containers at the docks?”

I think we need to have the TSA pay you a visit at your house so they can search your belongings and computer. You obviously have thought through a potential attack and so you are suspect.


29 posted on 11/01/2011 10:02:16 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: phockthis

It looks like the TSA confiscated all your paragraph breaks....


30 posted on 11/01/2011 10:04:59 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: FightThePower!

I asked that because you never answered #16


31 posted on 11/01/2011 10:11:40 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: FightThePower!

Sorry, I meant #20


32 posted on 11/01/2011 10:12:55 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: FightThePower!

Good evasive technique


33 posted on 11/01/2011 10:14:07 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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What good does personal weapons do against explosive devices in a mall, or shipping containers at the docks?

How does port security infringe on my personal rights? It doesn't.

VIPR checkpoints on the highway infringe.

Your strawman is weak.

Are you weak? Do you need a strong nanny watching over you?

34 posted on 11/01/2011 10:32:29 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: JOAT

What about the guys that are transporting those explosives to the mall? How would anyone know, if not for an informer and vehicle checks?


35 posted on 11/01/2011 10:48:00 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

How many more freedoms are you ready to infringe for your ‘security’?

Get real stuart.

Without freedom you HAVE no security.


36 posted on 11/01/2011 11:38:24 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: stuartcr

Blah blah.

If you advocate the 100% elimination of ‘risk’ you are a loon.

You propose that All vehicles be searched to make they are not carrying explosives to the mall? How often? Every mile? 5 miles? But then, what is to stop me from just detonating the gas tank after driving thru the front doors?

Maybe that is why the FedGov is pushing electric cars. But then, I could use THAT car to drive thru a Kindergarten classroom, so we need 15 mph limiters.

You position yourself close to the liberal line of thinking stuart.


37 posted on 11/01/2011 11:43:46 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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...and without security, you have no freedom. Sounds like a conundrum.

What is your solution to those guys heading towards the mall or their like?


38 posted on 11/01/2011 11:46:13 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: RoadGumby

Where did I say anything about advocating anything, much less 100% of risk?

I didn’t propose anything of the sort, did I?


39 posted on 11/01/2011 11:48:37 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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Yes you did. You seem to WANT an all powerful police presence to make sure nothing bad happens.

You worry about bombing a mall. So, then stuart, how do you propose to stop such a thing from happening? Because I can guarantee you, regardless of how difficult you make life, a determined person can amke it happen.

So I ask you again, how much more of your freedom are you willing to sacrifice? How about armed guards in front of homes, denying exit to all except during normal hours and with registered government escort? After all, it would help keep the children safe.


40 posted on 11/01/2011 11:55:44 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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