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To: DiogenesLamp
I noticed in the original article that several of the reader comments assert that there are only two kinds of citizens: born or naturalized and that the constitutional requirement for presidential eligibility limits that office to born citizens.

That argument, made by many FReepers as well, fails because it would allow US-born anchor babies whose parents were illegal aliens eligible to be president. I doubt this is what the founders intended at all. There was a very specific reason for the "natural born" language in the supreme law of the land.

5 posted on 11/01/2011 12:39:48 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Menehune56

You are correct. But the Founders didn’t foresee the 14th Amendment, a terribly flawed piece of law.


6 posted on 11/01/2011 12:42:19 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Menehune56
I noticed in the original article that several of the reader comments assert that there are only two kinds of citizens: born or naturalized and that the constitutional requirement for presidential eligibility limits that office to born citizens.

That argument, made by many FReepers as well, fails because it would allow US-born anchor babies whose parents were illegal aliens eligible to be president. I doubt this is what the founders intended at all. There was a very specific reason for the "natural born" language in the supreme law of the land.

I routinely cite the case of Rogers v Bellei to disprove the "born" argument. Bellei was born in Italy to an Italian Father and an American Mother. He was an American citizen at birth because congress passed a law declaring the offspring of a single American parent to be a "citizen." Bellei lost his citizenship because he failed to meet residency requirements.

My point in bringing this up, is that a citizen born to a single American citizen (such as Bellei) is not a "natural born citizen" (in the meaning of article II) because a natural born citizen would not lose his citizenship for failure to meet a residency requirement. The only difference between Bellei and Obama is that Obama can claim 14th amendment citizenship *IF* he really was born in this country. Still not "natural born citizenship" but it is better than what Bellei had.

Anyway, the current title of this thread is not what I wrote when I created it. It has been changed somehow. I had no intention of getting involved in the Rubio discussion, I only meant to point out that Lawrence Solum did not believe the two citizen parents argument was crazy.

8 posted on 11/01/2011 12:49:28 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama is an "unnatural born citizen.")
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