Posted on 11/15/2011 3:20:20 AM PST by scottfactor
Comment 39 was meant to be for you, but I messed up and wrote it to myself. I edited the sentence on the column...
“What I dont get is the virtual silence from studentsand there must be somewho understand the severity of the absense of morals at their school”
Good point. I tried to imagine what I would expect from my own child if he was a student there. Besides a transfer to another institution, my hope would be that he would be a voice of reason in the wilderness of insanity. But then, other concerns with that..like the mob like mentality of some of the students. I don’t know.
I suspect just such a 'camel's nose under the tent, then the whole damned drooling camel in their midst' environment exists in State College and in the Second Mile program.
The fired President of PSU fits the 'sexual deviant gaining power then transforming the environment' scenario. Sadly, Joe Paterno had such a flaw in his moral character that he became an enabler of this evil.
You can bet that Paterno knew what Sandusky did for sexual thrills. Joe had a close working relationship with the devil for too long and through more than one episode of accusations to have missed what he was associating with.
The nagging question is, will Americans have enough outrage to finally start reversing this evil rot at the heart of America? If NBC's complicity in allowing the sexual predator/lawyer of Sandusky to threaten exposure to the victims Sandusky names is any indication, then we the people will need to end the reign of deviant corrosion in media as an adjunct to standing against deviancy rising to demand normalcy in our midst. The trends do not look favorable for revival of moral taboos.
I believe I was the first person on FR to post a link to the Grand Jury Presentment. I've tried to stick to facts. I admit that not everything I've posted can be backed with a hyperlink to a reputable third-party source, but I wrote early about how as a child in Seattle in the early 1970s, I put black electrical tape on my white 'backyard' football helmet so that I could be one of Joe Paterno's Nittany Lions. I had no familial tie to Pennsylvania or Penn State.
I remember when Sue and Joe Paterno made their first $1 million gift to the Penn State library; when Penn State first started to be called "Linebacker U," when the University of Miami showed up in urban army fatigues for the 1987 Fiesta Bowl joint team pregame banquet and Paterno's team wore coats and ties; the 'moving back of the endzone' games against Alabama; the three undefeated seasons when Penn State didn't win a national championship; Paterno's white socks; and when Penn State joined the Big 10; and so much more.
Which doesn't mean much, except that Paterno was my hero and when I knew he had to go after reading the Presentment twice, it hit me hard. But as a man who has spend more than two decades working with youth, I was concerned about the youth involved, not a football coach that I respected.
I haven't been learning on the go about Penn State or Penn State football since this story broke. I have been learning about the perversion that was covered up for so long, and how expansive it was, and how thin the moral veneer of Paterno and the moral excellence of Penn State football was.
But I have never heard that Spanier has been trying to oust Paterno since he got there. The Board of Trustees has been dealing with Paterno's failing health and the fact that sometimes he seems to be a man in his 80s in a profession for a younger man with energy and vigor. And Joe has been stubborn and has used his power, which has likely frustrated the Board of Trustees.
So I'd like to know your sources that Spanier was trying to oust Paterno.
BUMP a thread title that uses the word “homosexual” to accurately describe Sandusky.
Sandusky is, after all, a homosexual who simply likes his sex partners real young.
Penn State had a very successful women's basketball program (although only UConn is UConn).
Renee Portland was the longtime women's basketball coach at Penn State. She started at Penn State in 1980, won over 600 games and was well known for her policy of not recruiting lesbians. After a 1991 national story quoting former Penn State players, Penn State's faculty senate added a sexual-orientation clause to its anti-discrimination policy. That's long before Spanier came to Penn State.
The policy didn't stop Portland. When Spanier came, he didn't stop Portland. She was winning games and that's what mattered.
In 2005, Penn State was upset in the first round of the NCAA tournament. Portland dismissed three players right after the game.
Things got messy when Penn State and Portland wouldn't confirm that the players were dismissed and the Sports Information Department put out a number of inventive releases suggesting that the players had left of their own accord. One of the players filed a lawsuit. Portland said she was dismissed for poor performance. Unfortunately, the player had started every game and was one of the team leaders in all statistics. The internal investigation determined that Portland was, in fact, doing her best to force players off the team if she found out that they were lesbians. Other former players who had been forced off the team for being lesbian came forward. Under a national spotlight, Penn State caved. The lawsuit was settled and Portland was forced to resign.
But under Spanier, as long as Portland was winning games and nobody objected, it was fine for Portland not to recruit lesbians and to force lesbians off the team.
Homosexualty has come roaring out of the closet----from the "love that dare not speak" to the "love that wont shut up."
One theory was proved point on---when Sandusky was described as "harmless"----just an "overgrown kid."
Some of the reliable experts point out that homosexualty is adolescent behavior---like kids in the pubescent stage---discovering their sexuality----so obsessed with it they refuse to grow up.
How did you like the NBC complicity with witness tampering, giving the sleazy Sandusky lawyer a public forum upon which to threaten the victims with public exposure if they do not recant?
Seems that if we have already tried and convicted him in the court of public opinion, he has already pleaded guilty!
And I think Sandusky will probably walk on the charges - all too likely that a PedoState fan will be on the jury and have the reaction that most PedoState people have had over the last twelve years or more - i.e. no big deal, not as important as football.
Um, perhaps I missed it, but why do you not condemn the Institution of Rome for the cover up they conducted to protect their image when rampant homosexual abuse is charged and proven? Apologize? I would rather the poster just ignore your whine.
I remember when Barry Krause stopped the PSU runnning back on fourth and goal, to beat PSU out of a national championship.
It's curious. I remember those things, and I have all of these details at my fingertips, but I'm really not much of a fan of college football. It's strange. I spent too much time going to college and graduated from three. Two of them have played for the National Championship in the last five years or so.
I didn't watch either game.
The other one won a lot of "National Championships" in football in the early 1900s, but now concentrates on crew, squash, fencing, and stuff like that. And doesn't give athletic scholarships.
Still doesn't beat the current slogan ...
Sandusky: The Roller Coaster Capital of the World
Nice try. I don’t need an excuse to see the duplicity. But that was a nice try.
I hope that the prosecutor is able to convince Sandusky to turn state's evidence and expose the entire ring.
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